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Jem Finer :: Well done Jem

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Author: usualdog
Subject: Well done Jem
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 12:14 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 0

PRESS
RELEASE


24th May 2007


Woodland water music



A giant steel horn in King's Wood, Challock which collects water and channels the drips to create music has scooped one of the country's most prestigious art awards.

'A Score for a Hole in the Ground' has won the Rouse Kent Public Art Award 2007 and was described by leading art expert Richard Cork as "magical, mysterious and slightly surreal".

The work consists of a steel horn - modelled on the trumpet of an old gramophone - rising seven metres above the ground amongst the beech trees deep in the wood, a seven metre deep chamber and a pond, eight metres in diameter.

The horn amplifies droplets of falling water in the concrete chamber beneath, producing a subtle bell-like sound. The weather changes the music - for example in a torrential downpour its reaches a crescendo while in the drought it is silent, save for the effects of the breeze brushing against the instruments.

The work was commissioned by Stour Valley Arts and created by Jem Finer. His proposal for the work won the PRS Foundation New Music Award in 2005 and he was invited by Stour Valley Arts to develop it for King's Wood.

The award was presented by the chairman of the judging panel, leading art critic and author Richard Cork, at a VIP dinner at the Kings Hill Golf Club on 23rd May. The £10,000 prize money will be divided between the commissioner and the artist and Stour Valley Arts will keep the Rouse chair for the next year - itself a work of art.

"The work has extraordinary presence," said Richard Cork. "You approach it through a beautiful wood and suddenly you see an extraordinary shape rising from the ground, looking like a giant gramophone horn.

"It is almost as if the wood has discovered its own voice and is playing its own music. It has a slightly surrealist feeling and is not what you expect to come across in an English wood, but it has wide appeal as everyone can grasp it at their own level."

The runner up for the award was 'The Erith Fish' in Erith - a sculpture of three intertwined fish rising up in a column and coated with brightly patterned glass mosaic created by Gary Drostle and commissioned by Bexley Council. They shared the second prize of £5,000.

Now in its 14th year, the Rouse Kent Public Art Award is given by Kings Hill developer Liberty Property Trust UK Ltd (formerly Rouse Kent), Kent County Council and Arts Council England, South East.

Commenting on this year's entries, Richard Cork said: "The entries were tremendously varied and it was interesting to see the way the artists approached the individual settings. It is really encouraging to see people being so adventurous in the creation of public art and businesses devoting time and resources to fostering the arts."


PICTURE CAPTION
Sandra Drew of Stour Valley Arts with (L-R) Nick Condon, Liberty Property Trust UK Ltd, Richard Cork, chair of the judging panel and Jem Finer, artist.

Pictures of A Score for a Hole in the Ground available from alison@maxim-pr.co.uk

ENDS

For further information, please contact:
Alison Hardy, Maxim PR & Marketing on 01892 513033 / alison@maxim-pr.co.uk
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Bud Byrne
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:14 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3078

Hard to give handball for it though. You could hardly say he meant it.

And at the end of the day,as you say, Liverpool didn't take their chances in the first half. And if you don't score you don't win.
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Misc :: RE: What Song are you listening to?

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Author: Bud Byrne
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:47 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 8657

Old Crow Medicine Show - Wrecking Ball
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Niall
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:24 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3077

Bud Byrne said:

why? Handball? Or no free?


handball i thought. i didnt think it was a free either but the ref gave it so you have to accept that, though he refused liverpool a free kick for the exact same thing in a dangerous position in the second half. at the end of the day liverpool couldnt take their chances, thats why they lost
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Bud Byrne
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:07 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3077

why? Handball? Or no free?
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: The saga of IrishRover & The Crew, a Shane tribute band

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Author: Niall
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:57 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 612

IrishRover said:

very noice, oindeed.. and the choildren of Afroica are not really hungry, they're just too laisy to go to the local WalMart.. very noice, oindeed! Confused


now quit being a dickhead
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Niall
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:57 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3077

firehazard said:

Congratulations to Milan.

I had a small bet on Milan to win 2-0, with Inzaghi scoring first. I'm convinced that Liverpool goal was offside... Sad Wink Laughing


it was, but then milan's forst goal should bnever have counted
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Niall
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:56 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3077

Hennybhoy said:

Not good that a team involved in the italian scandal won the cup....... Mad Rolling Eyes


they should not have been in the tournament in the first place
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How to Get a Free Yacht
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http://www.instructables.com/id/E6YIOICHKTEP2880DS

This is a very entertaining series of instructables by Tim Anderson on how he and a merry band of DIY'ers acquire, repair and upgrade a pair of old wooden boats on the cheap. Be sure to follow the link at the end of each installment to get to the next one.

Live shows :: RE: Medusans For Gothenburg

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Author: Johan From Sweden
Subject: ONEDAY TIX
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:04 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 46

mats said:

aitor said:

Any idea of when are going to be avaliable the one ticket?


No news yet, I´m also waiting Rolling Eyes


ONE DAY TIX Release tomorrow 25/5

Price 1 day tix: 695 SEK (£50).

The Program so far, more info to come.

Friday 10/8
The Hives
The Pogues
Primal Scream
Mika
Eagels of Death Metal
Lady Sovereign
CocoRosie
The Go! Team
m fl

Saturday 11/8
Kanye West
Erykah Badu
Regina Spektor
Lily Allen
Juliette and the Licks
New Young Pony Club
Spoon
Architectures in Helsinki
m fl

Good luck friends.

Cheers
Johan
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Live shows :: RE: FORTHCOMING: Pogues at Way Out West, Sweden, 10th Aug

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Author: Johan From Sweden
Subject: ONEDAY TIX
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:02 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 216

ONE DAY TIX Release tomorrow 25/5

Price 1 day tix: 695 SEK (£50).

The Program so far, more info to come.

Friday 10/8
The Hives
The Pogues
Primal Scream
Mika
Eagels of Death Metal
Lady Sovereign
CocoRosie
The Go! Team
m fl

Saturday 11/8
Kanye West
Erykah Badu
Regina Spektor
Lily Allen
Juliette and the Licks
New Young Pony Club
Spoon
Architectures in Helsinki
m fl

Good luck friends.

Cheers
Johan
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And half a pint of powers
Then off again to get on board
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Nancy
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:00 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3073

Liverpool haters!!! Confused

Fast food chain wants rewrite of 'insulting' McJob entry in
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http://money.guardian.co.uk/work/story/0,,2086790,00.html

The fast food chain McDonald's is pushing to change the Oxford English Dictionary definition of "McJob", claiming that the term - established in the English language - is insulting to the thousands of staff working in the service sector.

The company is seeking to alter the dictionary definition as "an unstimulating, low-paid job with few prospects, esp. one created by the expansion of the service sector", claiming that it represents an outdated view of work in the fast food industry. To back its case it will unveil a coalition of heavy hitters from the worlds of business and education - including the government's skills envoy, Sir Digby Jones - who are signing an open letter calling for dictionary houses to reconsider the longstanding definition.

Let's hope the OED don't crack under the pressure, a McJob is a McJob.

In The Media :: Shane, Spider & Terry in the movie EAT THE RICH (photos)

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Author: Alex
Subject: Shane, Spider & Terry in the movie EAT THE RICH (photos)
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:32 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 0

I recently bought a copy of the film "Eat The Rich" on DVD.
Our favorite band's only movie wasn't "Straight To Hell", Spider, Shane and Terry (and Frank Murray) also acted in "Eat The Rich" (1987).


Spider plays a guest at the restaurant "Bastards". He's a member of a socialistic band... The line he says is hard to understand since his mouth is full all the time he's shown Wink


Shane plays the leader of a terrorist group of Palestinian origin.

They occupy the Israeli Embassy.


Shane:
"We are not your enemies, ...all we want is justice, freedom and right in our own land. Kill your oppressors - Freedom for the oppressed.


But they fail as the home secretary knocks them out.

I uploaded screenshots with higher resolution to my homepage.
http://home.pages.at/pogues/eattherich.htm

Novell Partners With EFF on Patent Busting
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Seymour writes “Novell and the EFF have announced that Novell will be contributing to the EFF’s Patent Busting Project. Novell will also support the EFF’s efforts toward patent reform, including with the WIPO. Could this be Novell trying to get back in the good graces of Linux users? ‘Novell’s agreement with Microsoft has been a source of contention within open source circles, with one Red Hat executive accusing the company of appeasing Microsoft; others have accused Novell of violating the GPL with the agreement. Either way, signing the deal with Microsoft did a lot to sully Novell in the eyes of many Linux users, and Novell’s decision to link up with the EFF on patents may have been made with an eye towards getting some of its street cred back with the OSS community.’”

Oblig - by phalse phace (Score: 2, Funny) Thread
Billg: Novell partnering with EFF? That’s the dumbest fucking idea I’ve heard since I’ve been at Microsoft.

Too late! Once you go Slack, you never go back! - by SadGeekHermit (Score: 2) Thread
Hail Dobbs! 
 

Same Old Story - With a Different Beat - by Bob9113 (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
Husband sleeps with his secretary. Wife finds out. He buys her a Tiffany’s bracelet. For some wives it’s the bracelet that matters. For some it’s the remorse (or lack thereof). For some there is no uncheating. Same story here.

Doesn’t really work like that - by 26199 (Score: 3, Insightful) Thread

For me, at least, there aren’t any second chances. The great thing about the Linux market is there’s plenty of choice. Why choose Novell now?

I won’t be.

(Same idea behind not buying Sony ever again.)



Re:Doesn’t really work like that - by caffeinemessiah (Score: 3, Interesting) Thread
Could this be Novell trying to get back in the good graces of Linux users?

Oh grow up. Novell doesn’t give a rats a** if its “in the good graces” of Linux users. If MS gets serious about pursuing litigation (however unlikely), Novell is sitting on a plump little target — Suse. MS (or anyone else who has a bone to pick with FOSS) won’t go after end users — it’ll go after the cash cow that is Novell.



Golfer dies after cart plunges off cliff
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070522/ap_on_re_us/golf_cart_plunge

A golfer died Tuesday after...

Wealthy N.Y. Couple Charged With Slavery
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6657066,00.html

GARDEN CITY, N.Y. (AP) - A millionaire couple accused of keeping two Indonesian women as slaves in their luxurious Long Island home and abusing them for years have been indicted on federal slavery charges.

Varsha Mahender Sabhnani, 35, and her husband, Mahender Murlidhar Sabhnani, 51, operate a worldwide perfume business out of their home, contracting with overseas factories to manufacture the fragrances.

The two were arrested last week after one of their servants was found wandering outside a doughnut shop on Long Island, wearing only pants and a towel. The woman was believed to have fled the home in Muttontown, a tony community on Long Island's north shore, when she took the trash out the night before.

Game activist becomes cannon fodder for a cause
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http://www.theage.com.au/news/games/game-activist-becomes-cannon-fo...

To most of the fellow players he encounters in the shoot-'em-up online game called America's Army, Joseph DeLappe is a serial pest. For starters, the man just doesn't fight like virtual warriors are supposed to fight. As soon as he logs on, he inputs the command to drop his weapon.

Instead of shooting to kill, he's content to become cannon fodder for the trigger-happy millions who regularly play this popular game.Point is, he wants his man to die and he's gone down this path over and over again since he began this sitting duck routine 14 months ago.

DeLappe has turned his "intervention" into a game within a game with a goal of recording every US military death in Iraq.

Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Mark_Wafc
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:29 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3072

I think Mr N Warnock of Sheffield will be smiling to himself this morning



Somebody said:

Sheffield United boss Neil Warnock has lashed out at Sir Alex Ferguson and Rafael Benitez for the makeshift teams they put against West Ham and Fulham in vital matches that affected the bottom of the table

He said: "What goes around comes around and maybe Chelsea will win the FA Cup and AC Milan the Champions League."

Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Mark_Wafc
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:24 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3072

Great Result!

Laughing

Others :: RE: Redemption Song: The Ballad of Joe Strummer

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Author: MacRua
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:17 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3

Part 3: Red Hand of Fate (1979)
PopMatters
By Chris Salewicz


Part 4: Anger Was Cooler (1982-1984)
PopMatters
By Chris Salewicz

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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Johan From Sweden
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:17 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3072

FORZA Milan Laughing Very Happy

Great Win. Twisted Evil Very Happy
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Misc :: RE: What Song are you listening to?

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Author: Johan From Sweden
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:14 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 8656

philipchevron said:

THE POGUES Streams Of Whiskey (BBC, April 10, 1984)
THE POGUES Dingle Regatta/Holly Johnsons (BBC, June 21, 1984)
THE POGUES Connemara Let's Go! [aka Down In The Ground Where The Dead Men Go] (BBC, June 21, 1984)
THE POGUES Danny Boy (BBC, December 4, 1984)
THE POGUES Billy's Bones (BBC, July 2, 1985)
THE POGUES Rake At The Gates Of Hell (BBC, October 22, 1986)
THE POGUES Turkish Song Of The Damned (BBC, October 22, 1986)
THE POGUES Once Upon A Time (BBC, Jan 17, 1994)


Now, THATS just teasing.... Wink Very Happy

any chanse you can get your computer online just for Medusans to Download from Wink Cool
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Hennybhoy
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:59 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3072

Not good that a team involved in the italian scandal won the cup....... Mad Rolling Eyes
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: firehazard
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:58 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3072

Congratulations to Milan.

I had a small bet on Milan to win 2-0, with Inzaghi scoring first. I'm convinced that Liverpool goal was offside... Sad Wink Laughing
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: The saga of IrishRover & The Crew, a Shane tribute band

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Author: MacRua
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:49 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 611

TheIrishRover said:

MacRua said:

Anyway, what would all those Serbian young men and women do in Europe with their scanty income?


The last I checked, walking through Rome or strolling the cannals of Venice was free.

You mean drifting the channels? Yeah, as well as eating from bins, sleeping on benches and peeping into pubs windows.. But what about drugs and hookers?

Somebody said:

Rover, Im not having a dig, but it seems that if you really wanted to get to Ireland as much as you claim, there are ways that you could do it

Why to bother? Won't sooner or later lovely red haired cailin followed by two leprechauns knock on your door with freshly prepared passport full of irish visas and a pint o Guiness on green shamrock-shaped tray? And all you have to do for it is industriously yearn and moan?
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Little Green

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Author: Johan From Sweden
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:42 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 7

Grievous Angel said:

That's some really good stuff! Very well-played, and I like the lead singer's voice. It's just rather annoying that pretty much every country in the world is doing country music better than the U.S. nowadays. Damn Nashvegas...


Thanks for the input Grievous Angel, firehazard and Clash Cadillac. I know they´ll be glad to hear. Very Happy

Cheers
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Shared Glory :: RE: Orthodox Celts

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Author: MacRua
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:36 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 1

The video is smashing Smile
And they are quite a phenomenon... Heard them some years ago. That's why all discourses upon utter impossibility of playing Irish music in Serbia I regard as a sheer bullshite, nothing else.
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In The Media :: RE: Philip Chevron on Sirius

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Author: MacRua
Subject: Re: Philip Chevron on Sirius
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:33 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3

Michaelo said:

MacRua said:

Sirius Satellite Radio:

Phil Chevron of the Pogues Visits Celtic Crush
Sat 5/26 12:00 pm ET
Pogues' member Phil Chevron chats with Celtic Crush host Larry Kirwan about the history of the Pogues this Memorial Day weekend.

Is that Larry Kirwan of Black 47?

Aha, he has been hosting CC show for about two years.

Here's an interview with him...
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The Great Ape Revolution Has Begun
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070524/ap_on_fe_st/taiwan_orangutan;_y...

An orangutan escaped from a Taiwanese zoo and terrified patrons at a nearby restaurant Wednesday, overturning picnic tables and motorbikes and forcing terrified diners to cower inside the eatery.

Misc :: RE: What Song are you listening to?

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Author: Low D
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:23 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 8655

Captain Kelly's Bollocks said:

With the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie just around the corner, I decide to make a pirate music mix.



with all due respect, yer missin' three great ones (all canadian), the first a bonified classic of the genre:

1. Barrett's Privateers - Stan Rogers, Fogerty's Cove or Live: Between the Breaks (the latter is a truly jaw-dropping album)
2. Traighli Bay - Tanglefoot, Saturday Night in Hardwood Lake
or Captured Alive
3. Pirates of Paradise Bay - Jughead, Uncorked

Speaker's Corner :: RE: Weekly Journals

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Author: Benno
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:22 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 19

here is a response to "the open boat" by stephen crane
i detect links with existentialism, anyone else?

This story, at first glance, appears to be a boys adventure on the high seas. It bears resemblance to many stories by Stevenson, Melville and Bligh. The sublime however, for me, has truly sunk its unique imagery in this tale to make it necessarily different than those others. The mountain like waves which roll past the skiff, the immovability of the shore, and the lack of communication between safety and the turmoil of the boat all point towards sublime... and maybe even to the foundations of existentialism. Imagine the feelings of the men as they find they are not truly communicating with the shore, but are rather deceived into believing that they are by a man waving his coat seemingly at random. The forces which are responsible for their salvation are not only not communicating with them, but are needlessly taunting them. Here we can see the intense pessimism of some of the members of the crew come out; but also we see the immovable stoicism of the captain, who is so hardened to the implacable forces of nature and random chance that he does not give way to either pessimism of optimism, but rather remains stoic. This is a truly existential. Look also at the image of the boat upon the waves, as if a microcosm of society, being beaten mercilessly by rolling waves seemingly governed by chance. Even upon their salvation the intense sorrow of the loss of the oiler demonstrates again the intense and senseless coldness of our existence: "The welcome of the land to the men from the sea was warm and generous; but a still dripping shape was carried slowly up the beach, and the land's welcome for it could only be the different and sinister hospitality of the grace".
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Weekly Journals

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Author: Benno
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:19 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 19

this first is in answer to what was not understandable in
the life of frederick douglass
i answer it was the nature of the slaves work


When considering the question of what was unnattainable, or hard to udnerstand, in The Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, I was led to some interesting observations. The exact type of work was always poorly explained in the story. THis is not to say that is was not explained at all, but to say that it was not explained in what is called "layman's terms". This consequently means that only certain members of the reading public would have access to those specific terms. We see this in the way the work is described at all the places Douglass worked. The work done around, and in, the "Great House" would have only been known to current slave owners and masters. Sometimes the method of the work is very easily detirmined, for instance working in the fields, but exactly how those various sub-systems are run by masters and worked by slaves to work in a larger picture, remains elusive to most readers. It was when reading about the nature of his shipwork, and also considering the nature of the implied reader, that an idea occured to me. Perhaps this story fits into another genre, that of the adventure tale. The part of the story when Douglass and his group plan to pose as fishermen while fugitives is reminiscient of many adventure tales, such as those by Stevenson and Falkner (Moonfleet). This type of literature was very popular at the time, and the similarities are striking. The implied reader of those adventures stories, working class young males and boys, would have also been attracted to Frederick Glass for those same reasons. His oral, percussive, and violent voice would certainly have appealed to a group of men who are used to receiving such strict orders from men in positions of power, and would also have made them more sympathetic to some of the situations described in the tale. You can almost hear Douglass: "Imagine having a forman on a work site who is so terrible that he beats and yells at you for your entire shift... now imagine him following you home, now imagine him taking all of your wages."
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Misc :: RE: On This Date...

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Author: O'Blivion
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:03 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 616

I'm going on vacation - we're off to Hillbilly Heaven! - so I'll be brief.
There are really only 2 things we need to commemorate the next few days:

May 24

Busy Being Born: Bob Dylan

May 25

Born to Be Mine: My Sweetheart
Here we are in Angkor Wat...
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British Traffic Wardens Issued CCTV Head Cameras
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Rick writes “The Surveillance Society of Great Britain has taken another turn for the worse, as traffic wardens in Eccles, Manchester are being issued with CCTV head sets and given the legal power to impose fines of up to £80 for littering and other anti social behavior”

Actually its watching the traffic wardens… - by martijnd (Score: 2) Thread
All nice and orwellian; but actually these camera’s are watching the traffic wardens. So instead of just quietly slipping into civy street wear, and drinking the afternoon away in the pub they are now part of the city wide CCTV network. No more quickly at the struck of five just ticketing the whole street outside the pub and getting your quota. 
 
And then there is the boss screaming on the walkie-talkie — robbers, robbers, i want visuals, get a moveable camera^H^H^H^H^H warden to stand in the middle of traffic at Charring Cross… 
 
Takes the fun right out a job that does.

Propaganda - by teh moges (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
I understand the reason why this story is on the front page, and I understand that the reader might have concerns about the privacy implications. That doesn’t mean that a “news story” should contain such forcing language: 
The Surveillance Society of Great Britain has taken another turn for the worse  
This sentence imposes the view that this move is obviously bad, when in fact, although I really hate privacy breaches and measures that remove privacy, I like this idea. It gives some legal weight to these fines, and will hopefully do their part to stop people littering mindlessly. While anti-social behaviour is a bit ambiguous in terminology, I’m sure that if you are given a fine with evidence on camera, then the reason can’t be that frivilous.

Re:Propaganda - by gnuman99 (Score: 3, Insightful) Thread
I like this much better than the entire CCTV surveillance. The camera just sees what the officer sees. So no blatant invasion of privacy as we see with the CCTV system. 
 
Now if only they removed CCTV and use the cameras like this on every officer we should probably have less misconducts and brutality. 

Re:Propaganda - by m0nkyman (Score: 2) Thread
And if you don’t have anything to hide, why object to us installing a camera in your home… 
 
This ain’t just a slippery slope. It’s a fucking teflon ski hill.

Re:Propaganda - by StikyPad (Score: 4, Insightful) Thread
Moreover, I like the idea of police actions being recorded at all times. It (conceivably) increases accountability for the officers. This is not at all like posting cameras at fixed locations with loudspeakers, which offers no accountability for officers and plenty of opportunity for abuse.

Misc :: RE: What Song are you listening to?

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Author: Captain Kelly's Bollocks
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:22 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 8654

With the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie just around the corner, I decide to make a pirate music mix.

1. Scurvy Pirates - Whiskey & Rum
2. The Wages Of Sin - Jolly Roger
3. The Pogues - Turkish Song of the Damned
4. Tom Waits - Singapore
5. The Wholesick Crew - Captain Samson's Tale
6. Sforzando - Mermaids
7. Baby Gramps - Cape Cod Girls
8. The Bourbon Knights - Santi Anno
9. The Swaggerin' Growlers - Beer, Women, and Song
10. Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up to Boston
11. Jimmy George - Venezuela
12. Captain Tractor - Last Saskatchewan Pirate
13. Scurvy Bastards - Surrounded by Water
14. The Real McKenzies - Mainland
15. Bread and Roses - Let the Wind and the Sea be my Grave
16. Mutiny - Bligh
17. Dolomites - Hauling In The Slack
18. Ahead to the Sea - Ahead to the Sea
19. Dust Rhinos - Drunken Sailor/South Austrailia
20. Greenland Whalefishers - The Mutineer
21. Flogging Molly - The Seven Deadly Sins
22. Akron/Family - Interlude: Ak Ak Was the Boat They Sailed In On
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Radiation-eating Fungi
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Posted by samzenpus (48% noise) View
SEWilco writes “Fungus growths have been found in many extreme environments, including the Chernobyl reactor walls. Some fungi have been found whose growth is enhanced by radiation. I wonder if someone saved samples of the MIR-eating fungi.”

possible upside? - by circletimessquare (Score: 4, Funny) Thread
so if i don’t shower, that means i will be saved from this horrible cell phone and wifi radiation i keep hearing about? 

Radiation Hormesis - by dontthink (Score: 5, Interesting) Thread
First off, IAAMP (I am a medical physicsist). This is sort of radiation-induced growth stimulus was actually studied extensively in the first half of the 20th century. A great reference for this behavior is a paper published in Human & Experimental Toxicology called “Radiation hormesis: its historical foundations as a biological hypothesis” by Calbrese and Baldwin, which examines the dozens of studies examining the effects of low dose radiation on plants, fungi, and insects - fascinating stuff. Over 2/3 of the studies in this time period showed increased growth with radiation, while the other 1/3 used relatively high doses (which is known to have net detrimental effects). People were actually interested in putting radioactive isotopes in fertilizer to encourage crop growth, but results weren’t great and the A-bomb happened… and we all know where the public’s perception of radiation went after that. I’ve got a PDF of that paper if anyone is interested (the online version requires a subscription, I believe).

Re:Radiation Hormesis - by dontthink (Score: 4, Interesting) Thread
Yup, I sometimes feel like I missed out by being born after the golden age of radium enemas. On a more serious note, the concept that low doses of radiation can be beneficial has been a pretty hot topic of debate in the radiological science community lately. There was an incident in Taiwan where radioactive Co-60 (is there really any other kind?) was accidentally recycled into scrap steel that was used in over 200 buildings, giving the occupants low doses of radiation. The standardized incidence ratios (the ratio of observed cancers to expected cancers based on the entire population) in these occupants was on the order of ~0.8, or a 20% reduction in cancer incidence. Also look at studies of cancer incidence between regions of high and low background radiation - rates are lower in high background regions. There are all kinds of problems with these epidemiological studies (confounding factors like socioeconomic status and such), but not always. One study compared 100 years of cancer incidence and mortality data of British radiologists - their life expectancies and cancer rates were significantly than other British physicians (also by ~ 20%). If interested, the Nuclear Shipyard Worker Study also has some very interesting results in this vein. Good, controlled research on the topic of low-dose radiation with respect to humans is hard to come by, however, considering the major stigma attached to radiation. Other than worker and background radiation studies, you’ve pretty much got to wait until an accident happens.

hyphenation - by onemorehour (Score: 5, Informative) Thread
Radiation is eating Fungi? I think you might have wanted: “Radiation-eating Fungi,” especially in a headline. Consider: “Insect eating plants.”

Original headline was correct… - by raehl (Score: 4, Funny) Thread
Remember, Chernobyl was in Soviet Russia.

US City Sustainability Ranking
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http://www.sustainlane.com/us-city-rankings

The SustainLane 2006 US city rankings of the 50 largest cities is the nation's most complete report card on urban sustainability. The rankings explain how people's quality of life and city economic and management preparedness are likely to fare in the face of an uncertain future. These indicators gauge, for instance, which cities' public transit, renewable energy, local food, and development approaches are more likely to either limit or intensify the negative economic and environmental impacts of fossil fuel dependence.

Pickupedia -- The Pickup Line Encyclopedia
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http://www.nerve.com/pickupedia/MainPage.ashx

On Nerve's new wiki, share your favorite pickup lines with a fine community of skeeves.

This is a free encyclopedia of pickup lines... edited by you and others! Here you can...

-- Easily add or edit articles about virtually any subject related to pickup lines.
-- Search a wide number of articles written and submitted by other visitors.
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Misc :: RE: What tune is stuck in your head?

The Medusa Fora
Author: Behan
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:39 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 595

Video Nasty - The Damned
_________________
Life's too short for cheap lager!

Misc :: RE: What Song are you listening to?

The Medusa Fora
Author: Behan
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:34 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 8653

philipchevron said:

THE POGUES Danny Boy (BBC, December 4, 1984)



That's not the same "Danny Boy" that Cait sang in "Straight To Hell" is it?

Love Kills - Joe Strummer
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FAA Software Aims to Make Flights Easier
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Posted by samzenpus (7% noise) View
coondoggie writes “The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) this week expanded a program that it says will reduce flight delays during the peak summer season. The Airspace Flow Program gives airlines the option of either accepting delays for flights scheduled to fly through storms or flying longer routes to maneuver around them. The agency said that it rolled out a new software program that ensures airports impacted by bad weather receive the maximum number of flights that can safely fly to them.”

I hope that is not windows based - by Joe The Dragon (Score: 2) Thread
it it is we may be in for some real bad crashes.

Just moving the delay into the air - by PDMongo (Score: 2, Insightful) Thread
It seems like this is a partial response to the backlash of people getting stranded on planes on the ground during bad weather. Now the airlines have the option of putting the planes in the air, and flying the long way around to avoid the weather. 
 
The end result is that people will still be spending more time in airliners.

Re:Just moving the delay into the air - by Timesprout (Score: 2) Thread
It will mean longer flights but I guess the airlines feel it’s less expensive to burn the extra fuel rather than deal with or compensate stranded and irate passengers.

better all around - by wizardforce (Score: 3, Informative) Thread
they aren’t flying through storms, they fly AROUND storms- they aren’t stupid. their choices increase from just straight up delays to either flying around a storm or a delay [they didn’t do this already?] it is a good improvement- the delay could be a lot less and if it works well things will get better.

(sorry) - by The New Andy (Score: 3, Funny) Thread
This idea will never take off.

Radiation-Eating Fungi
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Posted by samzenpus (44% noise) View
SEWilco writes “Fungus growths have been found in many extreme environments, including the Chernobyl reactor walls. Some fungi have been found whose growth is enhanced by radiation. I wonder if someone saved samples of the MIR-eating fungi.”

Radiation Hormesis - by dontthink (Score: 5, Interesting) Thread
First off, IAAMP (I am a medical physicsist). This is sort of radiation-induced growth stimulus was actually studied extensively in the first half of the 20th century. A great reference for this behavior is a paper published in Human & Experimental Toxicology called “Radiation hormesis: its historical foundations as a biological hypothesis” by Calbrese and Baldwin, which examines the dozens of studies examining the effects of low dose radiation on plants, fungi, and insects - fascinating stuff. Over 2/3 of the studies in this time period showed increased growth with radiation, while the other 1/3 used relatively high doses (which is known to have net detrimental effects). People were actually interested in putting radioactive isotopes in fertilizer to encourage crop growth, but results weren’t great and the A-bomb happened… and we all know where the public’s perception of radiation went after that. I’ve got a PDF of that paper if anyone is interested (the online version requires a subscription, I believe).

Re:Radiation Hormesis - by dontthink (Score: 5, Interesting) Thread
Yup, I sometimes feel like I missed out by being born after the golden age of radium enemas. On a more serious note, the concept that low doses of radiation can be beneficial has been a pretty hot topic of debate in the radiological science community lately. There was an incident in Taiwan where radioactive Co-60 (is there really any other kind?) was accidentally recycled into scrap steel that was used in over 200 buildings, giving the occupants low doses of radiation. The standardized incidence ratios (the ratio of observed cancers to expected cancers based on the entire population) in these occupants was on the order of ~0.8, or a 20% reduction in cancer incidence. Also look at studies of cancer incidence between regions of high and low background radiation - rates are lower in high background regions. There are all kinds of problems with these epidemiological studies (confounding factors like socioeconomic status and such), but not always. One study compared 100 years of cancer incidence and mortality data of British radiologists - their life expectancies and cancer rates were significantly than other British physicians (also by ~ 20%). If interested, the Nuclear Shipyard Worker Study also has some very interesting results in this vein. Good, controlled research on the topic of low-dose radiation with respect to humans is hard to come by, however, considering the major stigma attached to radiation. Other than worker and background radiation studies, you’ve pretty much got to wait until an accident happens.

hyphenation - by onemorehour (Score: 5, Informative) Thread
Radiation is eating Fungi? I think you might have wanted: “Radiation-eating Fungi,” especially in a headline. Consider: “Insect eating plants.”

Original headline was correct… - by raehl (Score: 4, Funny) Thread
Remember, Chernobyl was in Soviet Russia.

Danger! (Evolution) - by nebaz (Score: 5, Funny) Thread
Eventually, the bacteria will evolve into this.

Jack Thompson Sues Microsoft
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Posted by ScuttleMonkey (36% noise) View
An anonymous reader writes to mention that Jack Thompson, in his latest bout of zealotry, has set his sights on Microsoft for their recent release of Halo 3. GameAlmighty has posted the letter to Bill Gates. “Here’s the deal, Mr. Gates: Either Microsoft undertakes dramatic, real steps, through its marketing, wholesale, and retail operations to assure that Halo 3 is not sold, via the Internet and in stores, directly to anyone under 17, or I shall proceed to make sure that Microsoft is held to that standard by appropriate legal means. I have done that before successfully as to Best Buy, and I shall do so again as to Microsoft and all retailers of Halo 3.”

Self-regulation - by Aeron65432 (Score: 4, Informative) Thread
Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t the ESRB’s rating system have no legal ground at all? Therefore it’s not illegal for stores to sell to u-18s…depends on store policy.

Gentlemen, this is a hoax - by netcrusher88 (Score: 5, Interesting) Thread
How do I know? 
 
* The writing style is juvenile, and though Thompson may be a fool, he is a lawyer, which means he knows how to write official-looking documents, and that was too casual for even a professional memo. 
* Who the hell has ever heard of GameAlmighty? Attention whores like Thompson don’t CC legal threats to unheard-of small gaming blogs with about a hundred readers. They CC it to NBC or something. 
* Who the hell has ever heard of GameAlmighty? Claiming to have received a letter from Jack Thompson is an extremely effective way to get hits. 
* Thompson already sent a letter to Bill Gates, about Counter-Strike. If he was going to send a letter about Halo 3, it would likely go to Steve Jobs. 
* Again with the writing style. It just feels very, very wrong. Can we get a literature/psychology professor/professional to analyze these? 
 
I know I’m going to get modded down for this, but I’ll be the one laughing. Or maybe you will, and I’ll be laughing at myself. I could be wrong.

Go for it Jack Thomson… - by NinjaTariq (Score: 4, Funny) Thread
As a parent I wish to let someone have the responsibility of bringing up my kids right, I am tired or trying to stop them doing things that they shouldn’t… 
 
I am going to buy Halo 3 for my own enjoyment, and I want Jack Thomson to personally come to my house here in PA and keep them out of the room so they don’t see the graphic violence as I take the convenant and flood once more… You go Jack, I assume because your self righteous head is so far up your own self righteous ass, that you won’t even need me to pay you… 
 
I love you Jack, you are my hero, I hereby grant you all of my parental responsibility, since you are so much better at it than me. I urge parents on slashdot to do the same. 
 
The man is an idiot, I bet the guy who reads Bill’s mail got a good laugh. Jack Thomson should NOT breed.

Oh my God. - by adam.dorsey (Score: 5, Funny) Thread
He just kicked the 800-pound gorilla in the nuts. 
 
This is so wonderful. This story just made my day.

Don’t believe it… - by Jeff Carr (Score: 5, Funny) Thread

Jack Thompson’s goal isn’t to prevent Halo 3 sales.

It’s quite clearly to get himself and Microsoft’s lawyers in the same room at the same time. That much concentrated evil will surely create a gateway to hell and let through all the imps, pain elementals, and cyberdemons. Then his purpose for preventing people kids from playing Doom will become clear as his armies rampage unhindered and he begins his thousand year reign over all the nations of the earth!



Misc :: RE: Rory Mcleod

The Medusa Fora
Author: Low D
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:24 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 1

I think he's great. Seen him here a couple times. I've heard him criticized by way of he only does "that one thing, it all sounds the same". While i would agree that there is some truth in that, i really like "that thing" that he does. And his ability to pick up apparantly just about any instrument and play along with just about anybody is pretty cool. I mean, how many people do you know travel around with a trombone, when it's not their main axe?

In The Media :: RE: Philip Chevron on Sirius

The Medusa Fora
Author: Clash Cadillac
Subject: Re: Philip Chevron on Sirius
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:48 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3

MacRua said:

Sirius Satellite Radio:

Phil Chevron of the Pogues Visits Celtic Crush
Sat 5/26 12:00 pm ET
Pogues' member Phil Chevron chats with Celtic Crush host Larry Kirwan about the history of the Pogues this Memorial Day weekend.


Sirius Disorder Channel 32 in case anyone is wondering.

Thanks MacRua

In The Media :: RE: Philip Chevron on Sirius

The Medusa Fora
Author: Clash Cadillac
Subject: Re: Philip Chevron on Sirius
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:40 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3

MacRua said:

Sirius Satellite Radio:

Phil Chevron of the Pogues Visits Celtic Crush
Sat 5/26 12:00 pm ET
Pogues' member Phil Chevron chats with Celtic Crush host Larry Kirwan about the history of the Pogues this Memorial Day weekend.


Sirius Disorder Channel 32 in case anyone is wondering.

Thanks MacRua

Quasicrystals: Somewhere between order and disorder
LinkFilter
http://www.physorg.com/news99154835.html

Professionally speaking, things in David Damanik's world don't line up - and he can prove it. In new research that's available online and slated for publication in July's issue of the Journal of the American Mathematical Society, Damanik and colleague Serguei Tcheremchantsev offer a key proof in the study of quasicrystals, crystal-like materials whose atoms don't line up in neat, unbroken rows like the atoms found in crystals.

Damanik's latest work focused on a popular model mathematicians use to study quasicrystals. The research, which was 10 years in the making, proves that quasicrystals in the model are not electrical conductors and sheds light on a little-understood corner of materials science.

Until 1982, quasicrystals weren't just undiscovered, they were believed to be physically impossible. To understand why, it helps to understand how atoms line up in a crystal.

Remarkable Persons (James Caulfield, 19th c.)
LinkFilter
http://bibliodyssey.blogspot.com/2007/05/remarkable-persons.html

Known commonly as Remarkable Persons, the 4-volume collection of portraits and stories about the eccentrics of Britain in the 18th century by James Caulfield was issued by subscription in 1819 and 1820 to great success. It promised to satisfy the public fascination with 'true stories' about exceptional feats, physical peculiarities and notorious acts. The extent to which it actually contained 'true stories' is a matter for conjecture...no doubt James Caulfield would be eminently employable by one tabloid or another, were he alive today.

Irrespective of the factual accuracy, this is a fantastic series just to browse through...There are 155 engraved plates (15 by George Cruikshank) but the stories themselves are humorously oddball enough, ably assisted by the quirky language and grammar of the period...


Excerpted from the Joseph McGarrity Collection at Villanova University Digital Library.

[cc: blogs & zines, history]

Photovoltaic (Solar Panel) Costs to Decrease 40% by 2010
LinkFilter
http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story;jsessionid=C93A...

The solar industry is poised for a rapid decline in costs that will make it a mainstream power option in the next few years, according to a new assessment by the Worldwatch Institute in Washington, D.C., and the Prometheus Institute in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

In 2006, for the first time, more than half the world's polysilicon was used to produce solar PV cells. Combined with technology advances, the increase in polysilicon supply will bring costs down rapidly -- by more than 40 percent in the next three years, according to Prometheus estimates.

Study Breaks Link Between Lycopene And Cancer Prevention
LinkFilter
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070517063011.htm

Tomatoes might be nutritious and tasty, but don't count on them to prevent prostate cancer. In the May issue of Cancer Epidemiology, Biomarkers & Prevention, researchers based at the National Cancer Institute and Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center report that lycopene, an antioxidant predominately found in tomatoes, does not effectively prevent prostate cancer.

In fact, the researchers noted an association between beta-carotene, an antioxidant related to lycopene, and an increased risk for aggressive prostate cancer.

Docufarm - Firefox document viewer extension
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http://www.docufarm.com

The DocuFarm Firefox extension lets you preview any PDF, PowerPoint presentation, Word document, etc., from the comfort of your browser in all of its original formatted glory.

via

Finger Length Predicts SAT Performance
LinkFilter
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20070523/sc_livescience/fingerl...

A quick look at the lengths of children's index and ring fingers can be used to predict how well students will perform on SATs, new research claims.

Kids with longer ring fingers compared to index fingers are likely to have higher math scores than literacy or verbal scores on the college entrance exam, while children with the reverse finger-length ratio are likely to have higher reading and writing, or verbal, scores versus math scores.


Correlation of irrelevant data points is the new black

Misc :: Rory Mcleod

The Medusa Fora
Author: trashcity
Subject: Rory Mcleod
Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 12:35 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 0

Went to watch him at The Musician in Leicester last night and as ever, he was stunning. Any thoughts folks?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO_xCvYGtxY

The Man Who Owns the Internet
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Posted by samzenpus (25% noise) View
Tefen writes “CNN Money posted this story about Kevin Ham, who has made a fortune gobbling up lapsed domain names and has recently launched a lucrative business partnership with Cameroon, the country which controls the .cm TLD. Since 2000 he has quietly cobbled together a portfolio of some 300,000 domains that, combined with several other ventures, generate an estimated $70 million a year in revenue.”

Alternative headline - by Zouden (Score: 4, Funny) Thread
“Ham Just As Bad As Spam”

I have no hesitation - by jeevesbond (Score: 4, Insightful) Thread

Having been on the wrong side of ‘cybersquatters’ this is an issue close to my heart. I wouldn’t mind if these people took a domain and did something useful with it, but instead they just plaster it with advertising and watch the cash roll in.

Am not even that bitter (it wasn’t even me that lost the domain but the previous owner of my site), what makes me angry is the way these people just leech ad views without giving anything back. Scummy blighters, the lot of them!

Problem is what should be done about these people? It’s not as if the government(s) of the world are competent enough to deal with problems like these (tubes anyone). ICANN is the organisation we should turn to: perhaps make a rule that the owner of a domain has to actually do something with it within a set period of time (say 6 months to a year). If all they’ve done in that time is plaster it in advertising (or have done nothing) it should return to the pool, perhaps with a bar disallowing the ghastly spammer from buying it again for a year.

This is pretty controversial and I suppose if someone pays for something they have a right to do what they like with it. That doesn’t detract from the fact that these people are like parasites, filling the Internet with rubbish and getting in the way of those of us who just want to provide a service.



What? - by spellraiser (Score: 5, Funny) Thread

I thought this guy owned the Internet.



Re:Really? - by Solandri (Score: 4, Insightful) Thread

Why do I suspect that his business colleagues are using botnets to artificially inflate those pageviews? If one follows the money paid in the advertising—whose pockets are he picking?
The most lucrative sites are general names, not typosquats. You’re probably correct that most people who make a typo just ignore the ads and type in the URL again. But a surprising number of people who are, say, visiting Palm Springs will just type www.palmsprings.com into their browser, bypassing search engines like Google (dunno if that’s a real site, but my guess would be it almost certainly is). These people will click on the ads on that site because it’s exactly what they’re searching for. I suspect most of the revenue comes from these types of domains. The article does focus on typos (mainly typos in .com), but that’s probably because that’s where all the new domain acquisition business is. Nearly all the “good” domain names under .com were sold long ago.

Having a bunch of domains == “owns the Internet”? - by dn15 (Score: 4, Insightful) Thread
Sensational much?

Slingbox Comes to the Mac
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Posted by ScuttleMonkey (26% noise) View
Egadfly writes “The Slingbox has arrived for the Mac world. Some long delays during development now seem over. Sling Media has finally released version 1.0 of their software for Mac OSX. This means that, after buying and installing the Slingbox, Mac users can ‘sling’ their home cable and satellite signals to themselves at the airport, or in a café hotspot, or over their office computers. The article on SlingCommunity.com gives the details of the software’s development — from last year’s much-discussed beta to today’s v1.0. Screenshots show how a standard-looking “TV remote,” displayed onscreen, allows the Mac users to change channels or browse Tivo recordings over the Internet, many miles from their living rooms.”

This “news” is only about 4 weeks old… - by CptTripps (Score: 3, Interesting) Thread
…but it’s still awesome. 
 
I’ve been using mine for a while now, and can tell you that this is about the coolest invention I’ve seen in a while. Originally, I wasn’t sure why I’d need one…now I can’t travel without it. I sit in airports watching TV on my MacBook, and always get 1-2 people that ask about it. 
 
Great stuff…

Re:Isn’t this news a little stale? - by Timesprout (Score: 3, Funny) Thread

Slingbox for Mac went 1.0 a few weeks ago I think. I’m not sure why it’s just making Slashdot now.
The original announcement was recorded on Slashdot’s tivo, they just got round to watching it now.

Full circle - by jfengel (Score: 5, Funny) Thread
Can I then use the iTV to sling it back to my television set? 
 
Maybe we can get them to sling it back and forth until it opens a wormhole or something.

Mac or not, the Slingbox simply rocks! - by LibertineR (Score: 4, Funny) Thread
No more being a slave to whatever is playing in my hotel room. With a fast connection, I can watch and control my own DirecTV from wherever I happen to be. Either on my laptop, or my Treo, I can watch what I want, when I want. Slingbox ought to hire me, because I help sell a few units everytime I connect up waiting at an airport gate. People cant believe I am watching my own DirecTV on my phone.

Get one, bitches.



Re:Mac or not, the Slingbox simply rocks! - by jaredcat (Score: 4, Informative) Thread
I’ve got one of these too (CompUSA’s going out of business sale), and I love it. 
 
I travel for business about 2 weeks per month, and I go mad trying to find something to watch on Hotel television. 
 
The Slingbox lets me see and control everything on my Tivo Series3 and the quality is pretty good even at full screen. 
 
The SlingPlayer client is amazingly well thought out, even though the UI could use some refinement. For instance, during initial setup, the SlingPlayer client asked me for my home router’s password and automatically configured the ports it needed. 
 
Also, I don’t need to know my IP address at all… Once I’ve connected to my Slingbox 1 time on my own home network, it remembers that Slingbox’s ID on SlingMedia’s server. The next time I go online anywhere in the world, the SlingPlayer client looks up the real IP address of my Slingbox on SlingMedia’s server and then connects automagically. 
 
My only complaint about the SlingBox (and its really not SlingMedia’ fault) is my HDMI troubles with the Tivo Series3. When the Tivo is connected to a TV via HDMI, and that TV is off, it doesn’t see the HDMI DRM handshake signal. When that happens, Tivo displays an error message on all video outputs. My SlingBox is connected to my Tivo via Component video. So the first time I went off on a trip, all I could see when I connected to my Slingbox was the menu screen and that stupid HDMI error message. The workaround was to just unplug the HDMI cable when I know I’m going to travel… Or I guess I could leave my TV on 24-7 too. 
 
Sometimes I use SlingPlayer at home when I just want to watch Tivo in a little square while I’m working insted of putting my laptop in front of the TV. On the local LAN, the quality is at least as good as SDTV. 
 
Anyway IMHO the SlingBox is a must-have for any business traveler.

Speaker's Corner :: RE: The God Delusion

The Medusa Fora
Author: Christine
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:56 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 7

dawson said:

How does dawkins explain ghosts and people talking to the dead?


By the formidable power of the brain's simulation software. Illusion, in other words. Idea

http://www.rationalresponders.com/why_there_is_no_god_by_richard_dawkins

New DX10 Benchmarks Do More Bad than Good
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Posted by ScuttleMonkey (18% noise) View
NIMBY writes “An interesting editorial over at PC Perspective looks at the changing status between modern game developers and companies like AMD and NVIDIA that depend on their work to show off their products. Recently, both AMD and NVIDIA separately helped in releasing DX10 benchmarks based on upcoming games that show the other hardware vendor in a negative light. But what went on behind the scenes? Can any collaboration these companies use actually be trusted by reviewers and the public to base a purchasing decision on? The author things the one source of resolution to this is have honest game developers take a stance for the gamer.”

quit already with ‘optimized’ drivers - by BattleTroll (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
I’m getting tired of the back and forth between AMD and Nvidia. Drop the whole ‘optimized’ drivers crap and give us cards that work great out of the box. This entire trend of releasing per-game tweaked drivers is just hurting consumers. I shouldn’t have to wait for Nvidia to tweak their drivers to get the best performance out of one of their cards. I shouldn’t have to download new drivers every time a new games comes out. The whole reason you create your cards based on a known standard is to avoid this mess. 
 
Stop fucking around and do it right the first time. 
 
How hard is that? 

DX10 - by Richard McBeef (Score: 5, Funny) Thread
DX10 or for the uninformed, Derendering eXtraction (10 megapixels/second) is a standard benchmark for measuring the performance of GPUs or Gradient Pixilization Units. Pretty much this is what the video card companies all base their prices on with price being directly related to how many pixels can be gradiated per unit (usually about 30 cents per pixel/ounce).

I thing, you thing, we all thing - by Timesprout (Score: 3, Funny) Thread
Sorry I bit my tounge and I cant pronounce sing properly. What was the Author singing for anyway, shouldn’t he have just written it down?

Re:John Carmack - by peragrin (Score: 4, Insightful) Thread
Use OpenGL.

Re:John Carmack - by Applekid (Score: 4, Interesting) Thread
He seems to be less anti-DirectX these days
 
“JC: DX9 has its act together well. I like the version of DirectX on the 360. Microsoft is doing well with DX10 on tightening the specs and the exactness.” 
 
Of course, he’s still calls it like it is: 
 
“The new features are not exactly well-thought-out. Most developers are pretty happy with DX9. The changes with DX10 aren’t as radical. It’s not like getting pixel shaders for the first time. Single-pass shaders are nice with DX10, but it’s a smaller change. ”

Ice Age blast 'ravaged America'
LinkFilter
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6676461.stm

"A controversial new idea suggests that a large space rock exploded over North America 13,000 years ago."

Story suggests that the explosion could have contributed to the origins of agriculture in Mesopotamia, as well as mass extinctions in N. America.

Magic Posters in the Library of Congress
LinkFilter
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/p?pp/var:@field(CALL%2B@od1(pos...

144 digitized posters promoting traveling magicians collected in the performing arts gallery at the Library of Congress. Includes a bunch from Houdini shows.

Airplane Flies Close to Shuttle Atlantis
Space Dot Com
Airplane Flies Close to Shuttle Atlantis
A small classic aircraft came close to shuttle Atlantis on its Kennedy Space Center launch pad Tuesday.
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Misc :: RE: What Song are you listening to?

The Medusa Fora
Author: rumsodomyandthelash
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:05 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 8652

Good Souls - starsailor
_________________
One Shane Macgowan !
Theres only one Shane Macgowan !

Feedburner Sale to Google Confirmed
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Techdirt is reporting that the rumored sale of Feedburner to Google has been confirmed. “Feedburner is in the closing stages of being acquired by Google for around $100 million. The deal is all cash and mostly upfront, according to our source, although the founders will be locked in for a couple of years.”

Google buying traffic again. But why? - by Animats (Score: 5, Interesting) Thread

What’s so weird is that, as with YouTube, Google is buying traffic. Not revenue. Not technology. Traffic. One wouldn’t think that Google needed more traffic. More revenue from its traffic, maybe, but more traffic from free services?

Google, according to Alexa, is #2 in traffic, and Yahoo is #1. But Google isn’t far behind. These buys look like a desperate attempt to displace Yahoo as #1. Whether this make economic sense isn’t clear.

Interestingly, Google traffic takes a dive every weekend, as does Feedburner, but Yahoo traffic does not. Look at the Alexa graphs. That gives a sense of how much work-related use the site gets. Slashdot, incidentally, has a strong weekly cycle, much stronger than Google.

It’s still not clear if Google’s expansion beyond search will be seen a few years hence as a good move or as corporate megalomania.



“Locked in for a couple of years?” - by PHAEDRU5 (Score: 5, Funny) Thread
This can’t end well.

I’ve been in this room for eight years now, Clarice. I know they will never, ever let me out while I’m alive. What I want is a view. I want a window where I can see a tree, or even water. I want to be in a federal institution, far away from Dr. Chilton.


Eat my dirt, techcrunch! - by mfaras (Score: 4, Informative) Thread
I googled techdirt, and I searched their blog, and there’s nothing about google and feedburner, take a look: 
http://www.techdirt.com/search.php?q=feedburner 
 
So I’m betting scuttlemonkey typo’ed it, and it’s actualy techcrunch, as the link says. 
 
Please correct the summary. 
 
— 
Eat my dirt.

Why bother? - by garcia (Score: 4, Interesting) Thread
Google already gets my feed itself through feedfetcher and it is one of the few subscribers to my feedburner feed. It also subscribes itself to several other feeds (bloglines). 
 
I don’t see what good it does Google to own this company.

Re:Why bother? - by drinkypoo (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
I think they’re just stamping out competition. And they don’t have to keep doing it forever, either. They buy one or two more of ‘em and people will stop starting them. When Google has the top three of whatever, people will mostly stop making whatever. The procedure worked for Microsoft time and time again, why not Google? :)

Shared Glory :: RE: The Tossers

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Author: Phoist
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:06 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 125

Saw an add in the Globe today that they are to be playing a festival at the Canton Irish Center the first weekend in August with Black 47, the Saw Doctors, Tommy Makem, Dropkick Murphys and a whole bunch of others.

Speaker's Corner :: The Trial Of The Century Ended Today

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Author: IrishRover
Subject: The Trial Of The Century Ended Today
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:42 pm (GMT 0)
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the so called Trial of century ended today in Serbia... BUT stoill many are at loose, as well as the political fathers of the murder, and there were nazi supporters for the convoicted koillers who weren't at all happy to see their beloved friends and leaders gettoing maxoimum jail sentences today!

Maximum sentences for Ulemek and Jovanovic
23 May 2007 | 12:03 -> 17:00 | Source: B92, Beta
BELGRADE -- Milorad Ulemek and Zvezdan Jovanovic receive maximum forty year jail terms for the assassination of Zoran Djindjic.


Serbia's slain prime minister Zoran Djindjic

Former commander of MUP Special Operations Unit (JSO) Milorad Ulemek was found guilty of organizing the assassination of Serbia’s first democratic prime minister Zoran Djindjic, receiving a maximum penalty of 40 years in prison.

Second accused Zvezdan Jovanovic, who fired the shot that killed Djindjic, has also been sentenced to 40 years in jail.

Criminal Zemun Clan members Aleksandar Simovic, Vladimir Milisavljevic, Ninoslav Konstantinovic and Sretko Kalinic were also found guilty and sentenced to 35 years in prison each, while Ducan Krsmanovic, Milos Simovic, Milan Jurišic, former JSO member Zeljko Tojaga and former BIA officer Branislav Bezarevic received 30 year jail terms. Sasa Pejakovic, formerly of the JSO, will spend eight years behind bars.

Three and a half years after it started, the Djindjic’s assassination trial, often referred to as “The Trial of the Century”, has thus reached its end.

Prime minister Zoran Djindjic died on March 12, 2003, from a deadly sniper rifle bullet wound to his heart, at the entrance to the Serbian government building in Belgrade.

President Boris Tadic, former Prime Minister Zoran Zivkovic, former Djindjic cabinet members Zarko Korac and Vladan Batic and Democratic Party officials, ministers in the current government Slobodan Milosavljevic and Milan Markovic were all in the courtroom today.

The reading of the verdict and sentencing was attended by more than 100 Serbian and foreign media crews.

Presiding judge: Djindjic killers aimed at the state


Special Organized Crime Court Wednesday before the verdicts were delivered (FoNet)

Presiding Judge Nata Mesarovic said in the explanation of the verdicts passed today that the knowledge that a hostile criminal organization could murder a prime minister was the hardest fact learned from the process.

“Zvezdan Jovanovic, an officer with the disbanded police Special Operations Unit, fired two bullets at Serbian Prime Minister Zoran Djindjic on March 12, 2003, one of which fatally wounded him, while the other injured his bodyguard Milan Veruovic,” Judge Mesarevic read out.

“The Djindjic murder was a political murder directed against the state, in which the criminalized part of the JSO and Dusan Spasojevic’s [Zemun] gang took part,” she continued.

Speaking about the large volume of presented evidence, Judge Mesarevic quoted now late Zoran Vukojevic, one of the protected witnesses murdered during the trial, who said “Dusan and Legija are one and the same”, as well as that they made the decision to kill Djindjic.

Speaking about the interrogation of Zvezdan Jovanovic conducted by police, Mesarevic, among others, quoted his statement that said, “I have personally liquidated Prime Minister Djindjic”.

The judge pointed to the fact both Jovanoviæ and another defendant, Dusan Krsmanovic, described preparations and the act of murder in the same way, adding that Ulemek’s defense was “unconvincing and compromised by evidence”.

Judge Mesarevic then said that based on all the evidence presented to the court, it was determined that JSO deputy commander Zvezdan Jovanovic had killed Zoran Djindjic, firing his rifle from an apartment in Belgrade’s Admirala Geprata Street.

She also said evidence confirmed Jovanovic’s confession, made after his arrest, linking him beyond doubt to the rifle used to kill Djindjic. There was no reason to reject his confession, as it was made according to the law, in the presence of his attorney.

The court did not accept the defense teams’ argument that three, instead of two shot occurred, as well as that they were fired from a different location, as many pieces of evidence linked the Admirala Geprata Street location with the material traces recovered at the scene.

Ulemek and Spasojeviæ organized the assassination in fear they would be arrested, the judge told the court.

“Zoran Djindjic’s cabinet was truly determined to deal with organized crime as new organized crime legislation was passed, and a special police unit set up,” Mesarevic said.

“What upset them [Ulemek and Spasojevic] the most was the fact the murders of Ivan Stambolic and Slavko Curuvija as well as many other murders and kidnappings were being investigated,” she said.

None of the former JSO members accused of the crime, with the exception of Jovanoviæ himself, saw possible Hague indictments as a motive to kill Djindjic. None of the JSO members have ever been indicted by the ICTY, Mesarevic added.
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: The God Delusion

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Author: philipchevron
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:40 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 6

dawson said:

How does dawkins explain ghosts and people talking to the dead?


I don't think he does, but if he did, he might draw upon the wondrous dramatic stylings of Mr Shakespeare to illuminate the topic rather well, especially if he were to close in on Hamlet and the underexplored - in recent acholarship at least - connection between the play and the recently bereaved author's only son, Hamnet.

today in "zapping your brain-meats" news

jwz

Vagus Nerve Stimulation

In VNS a two-inch diameter, .25 inch thick disk is surgically tucked under the skin near the left collarbone, then wired upward to the vagus nerve in the neck. The battery-operated disk delivers intermittent, rhythmic pulses to the nerve -- whose name means "wandering" in Latin -- that reaches a half dozen areas of the brain critical to treating depression, according to Dr. Darin Dougherty of Massachusetts General Hospital.

The implanted disc is programmed and reprogrammed with a wand held over the skin. Data on each patient about the intensity and frequency of the pulse and device settings is stored in individual memory cards slotted into in a handheld computer linked to the wand.

Researchers know the treatment stimulates norepinephrine and serotonin centers, now treated with pharma at a tepid success rate, and increases blood flow and neuron activity. But they candidly say they don't fully understand why VNS works.

Previously, previously.

Performance Tuning Subversion
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BlueVoodoo writes “Subversion is one of the few version control systems that can store binary files using a delta algorithm. In this article, senior developer David Bell explains why Subversion’s performance suffers when handling binaries and suggests several ways to work around the problem.

svn+ssh and master mode ssh. - by frodo from middle ea (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
My solution, use svn+ssh and keep a ssh connection to the svn server in Master mode. All svn+ssh activity tunnels through this master connection , no need for ssh handshake each time or for that matter no need to even open a socket each time.

Plus if the master connection is set to compress data ( -C ) , then you get transparent compression.

Now if only I could expand all this to fit 2 pages…Profit!!!



Re:Why binaries? - by javaxman (Score: 4, Insightful) Thread
1) you want deployment without the need to build 
2) you have proprietary build tools limited to developer use, or release engineers unable to build for whatever reason ( similar to #1, I know… ) 
3) images, of course. 
4) Word, Excel, other proprietary document formats are all binary. 
5) third-party binary installation packages, patches, dynamic libs, tools, etc. 
 
You’re just not trying, or you’re thinking of version control as something that only programmers would use, and that they’d only use it to store their text source. There are as many reasons to store binary files in version control as there are reasons to have binary files…

Re:Why binaries? - by jfengel (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
It’s really nice to be able to have your entire product in one place and under version control. Third party DLLs (or .so’s or jars), images, your documentation… just about anything that’s part of your product. 
 
That way it’s all in one place and easily backed up. If you get a new version of the DLL/jar/so you can just drop it into a new branch for testing. If your customer won’t upgrade from version 2.2 to version 3.0, you can recreate the entire product to help fix bugs in the old version rather than just saying, “We’ve lost it, you’ve got to upgrade.” 
 
Basically, by putting your entire project under version control, you know that it’s all in one place, no matter what version it is you want. Even if the files don’t change, you know how to reconstruct a development installation without having to dig around in multiple locations (source in version control, DLLs in one directory on the server, etc.) 
 
Yeah, so it costs some extra disk to store it. Disk is cheap.

Re:Why binaries? - by Anonymous Coward (Score: 4, Informative) Thread
putting a toolchain under CM control, so that you can go back to not only an earlier version of your own code, but the version of the toolchain you used to compile the code at that point in time. Absolutely necessary to be able to recreate the full software environment of a past build, without relying on that version of the toolchain still being publicly available (not to mention including any patches/mods you made to the public toolchain).

Re:SVN will not replace CVS (IMO) - by scribblej (Score: 4, Informative) Thread
You ever try to move a directory structure full of source code from one place to another in CVS — or even to move or rename a single file…? 
 
HINT: When you do it the way CVS provides, you will lose all of your revision history. 
 
SVN does not have this fatal flaw. 
 

The Myths of Innovation
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cgjherr writes “Ah, the technology history book, normally I’m not a fan. The writing is aloof and dry. The topics are vague, the history misinterpreted, and the lessons presented to vague to be applicable. And don’t get me started on the illustrations, which are all too often pyramids with the authors perched at the top looking down on the lowly reader at the base. Thankfully, this book, “the myths of innovation” breaks all of these rules. It’s an engaging, fun and quick read. The history is interesting, and the lessons presented are practical. I particularly like the author’s tone. It’s witty and light. Which makes this a very fast read, one that leaves you wanting even more by the end.” Read below for the rest of Jack’s review.

The myths of innovation is about how innovation happens in the real world in companies, universities and garages around the company. The first two chapters really draw the reader in by showing the twin fallacies of the epiphany moment and the historically clean line of innovation. Learning that innovation doesn’t just come as a flash, and that lots of successes have come out of copious failure encourages us to try to innovate, and to keep trying even when we believe we have failed. 
 
This short book (147 pages of content) is presented in ten short chapters. The first two show you how anyone can be an innovator. You can think of those as the debunking chapters. The third chapter is where the author starts helping you to build some techniques to innovate. He presents how there are some reasonable methods to spur innovation and shows examples from Apple, Google, Edison, Craiglist and more. 
 
In chapter four he shows how to overcome peoples fears of innovation and overcome the common problems with the adoption of new technologies. Chapter five, “the lone innovator”, debunks the legend of, well, the lone innovator. It sounds good, and plays into our noble story of the hero, but it’s not common in reality. Chapter six talks about ideas and surveys where innovators have found the ideas that they start out with. Of course, where you start is often not where you end but that’s ok, since innovation is a lot more about failure than it is about success. 
 
Chapter seven covers something I think most of us can relate to, which is that managers aren’t often the innovators. Chapter eight talks about how we believe that the “best ideas always win” but that’s least often the case. This sounds pessimistic, but it’s actually an interesting study in how the biggest product with the most feature isn’t always the best for the customer. Chapter nine, “problems and solutions”, talks about framing problems to constrain the creativity and innovation. The final chapter, “innovation is always good”, is at the same time the most amusing and disturbing. It covers innovations from the automobile to DDT and presents that innovation, no matter what, is always good. Agree or disagree the points are well presented. 
 
As I say I really enjoyed this book. It’s an easy read that is hard to put down. What’s more it’s really motivating. After reading this book you will want to dig right back into those crazy ideas lurking around in the back of your mind and give them another shot. With this book, you will have a few more tools at your disposal to turn your ideas into reality.  
 


You can purchase The Myths of Innovation from amazon.com. Slashdot welcomes readers’ book reviews — to see your own review here, read the book review guidelines, then visit the submission page.



Ah, the Slashdot review - by popo (Score: 3, Informative) Thread
 
Ah, the Slashdot review. Normally it is well written. The first sentence isn’t misleading. The reviewer gets straight to the point. There is no confusing turnabout within the first paragraph. But this is not that review. 
 

A really nice book on the evolution of our tech - by Churla (Score: 3, Informative) Thread
I read this back in 86, a year after it was published in 85. Recently it was republished with a new afterword by the author. So now it’s “retro history” but still great if you want to learn about the people behind a bunch of the technology : 
 
http://www.amazon.com/Tools-Thought-History-Mind-E xpanding-Technology/dp/0262681153/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/ 002-1089548-0663244?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1179948333 &sr=8-2 

Re:Defeats/Prevents the purpose… - by dpaton.net (Score: 3, Informative) Thread
Innovation can be taught too. Ask anyone who has gone through the TRIZ process: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIZ 
 
It’s not rocket science, it’s a new way of thinking about problems and their solutions. 
 
Some people are born with it, others are taught it. The results are essentially the same for all but the most esoteric and rare cases.

Re:Defeats/Prevents the purpose… - by jcgf (Score: 3, Insightful) Thread

I truly believe inventors or true innovators are not made but born. Anyone can learn to do something but only people with a knack or talent will do it well.

Beliefs like that lead one down the road of mediocrity.



No, I won’t. - by xxxJonBoyxxx (Score: 4, Funny) Thread

After reading this book you will want to dig right back into those crazy ideas lurking around in the back of your mind and give them another shot.
 
No, I won’t. Remember…
Chapter five, “the lone innovator”, debunks the legend of, well, the lone innovator. It sounds good, and plays into our noble story of the hero, but it’s not common in reality.
…and…
Chapter eight talks about how we believe that the “best ideas always win” but that’s least often the case.


Speaker's Corner :: RE: The God Delusion

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Author: dawson
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:13 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 5

How does dawkins explain ghosts and people talking to the dead?

Speaker's Corner :: RE: The saga of IrishRover & The Crew, a Shane tribute band

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Author: IrishRover
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:12 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 610

very noice, oindeed.. and the choildren of Afroica are not really hungry, they're just too laisy to go to the local WalMart.. very noice, oindeed! Confused
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In The Media :: RE: Philip Chevron on Sirius

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Author: Michaelo
Subject: Re: Philip Chevron on Sirius
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:04 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 1

MacRua said:

Sirius Satellite Radio:

Phil Chevron of the Pogues Visits Celtic Crush
Sat 5/26 12:00 pm ET
Pogues' member Phil Chevron chats with Celtic Crush host Larry Kirwan about the history of the Pogues this Memorial Day weekend.

Is that Larry Kirwan of Black 47?

Official music :: Most overpriced Pogues item

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Author: Michaelo
Subject: Most overpriced Pogues item
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:02 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 0

I've just seen the White City CD single for sale online at $50! Bearing in mind the extra tracks are now available on Peace and Love, the only "new" thing on it for most people would be the very slightly different mix of the title track. Has anyone seen a more overpriced Pogues item on the net?

Live shows :: RE: FORTHCOMING: Pogues at Way Out West, Sweden, 10th Aug

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Author: mats
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:47 pm (GMT 0)
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Johan From Sweden said:

Just some usless knowing:

Moneybrother who plays at W O W have made a Swedish version of Kirsy MacColl´s "They don´t know" and in Swidish it´s "Dom vet ingenting om oss" and it´s played quiet frekvently on Swedish radio. maybe someone (Mats) Smile can put up a link to the song

Cheers
Johan Cool


Here it is: http://www.moneybrother.net/mb.html
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[how to] $100 Super-Bright Flashlight for Under $10
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http://www.instructables.com/id/EU9I131F1B3RHOB/?ALLSTEPS

Detailed instructions (with video in Flash) on modding a $4 plastic flashlight to outshine a more expensive Surefire E2.

Polyethylene Bulletproof Vests Better Than Kevlar
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teflonscout writes “When I think of bulletproof vests, the first word that comes to mind is Kevlar. Wired is running a story on Dynema SB61, a bulletproof material that is made of polyethylene. It is a higher grade of the plastic found in Tupperware. The story also mentions the recall of Second Chance bulletproof vests that were made from Zylon, a material that degraded slowly when exposed to moisture. At least one police officer was injured when a bullet penetrated his Zylon vest. Polyethylene is impervious to moisture. The first vests made from this new material are 5mm thick and can stop a 9mm bullet traveling at 1777 feet per second, which is slightly better than other top of the line vests.”

Still better light-weight armor out there… - by Techguy666 (Score: 2) Thread
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/dragon-skin-bul letproof-vest-repels-ak47-rounds-203003.php 
Dragon Skin bullet proof vests are light weight but can stop (multiple) armor piercing rounds. That’s rather impressive. 
 
They use silver-dollar sized “scales” of ceramics. If it’s as light and flexible as advertised, this is far better for soldiers and law enforcement. 
 

Send them to Iraq - by jfengel (Score: 2) Thread
I hear they could use some extra body armor over there. And they’ll never, ever, ever be exposed to moisture in the freaking desert.

Dynema? - by Red Flayer (Score: 3, Funny) Thread
I think maybe they should rethink the name of the material (“Dynema SB61”)when/if it goes into production.  
 
I, for one, would rather not have my bulletproof vest sound like it’s a cross of high explosives and bowel cleansing kits.

One word. - by Palmyst (Score: 3, Funny) Thread
Mr. McGuire: I want to say one word to you. Just one word. 
Benjamin: Yes, sir. 
Mr. McGuire: Are you listening? 
Benjamin: Yes, I am. 
Mr. McGuire: Plastics

Re:to bad our troops are treated like shit - by Applekid (Score: 3, Interesting) Thread
“doubt this technology will see iraq, oh and don’t flame the truth, thanks” 
 
Yes, don’t flame the truth. Rather, flame the complete ignorance of the process by which new technologies trickle down to soldiers from the numerous trials and tests. 
 
If it’s good enough, it will eventually be used. The question then will be whether troops will still be in Iraq at that time.

Taiwanese Company to Mass Produce Rewritable HD Discs
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Lucas123 writes “Ritek Corp. plans to start mass producing BD-RE and HD DVD-RE next quarter. ‘Initially, however, BD-RE and HD DVD-RE discs will be pricey. The average cost per disc will remain around $10 in retail outlets, despite production costs of around $5 per disc, said Eric Ai, a Ritek representative. Prices won’t likely come down until other mass disc producers in Taiwan win accreditation to make the discs, and ramp up volumes.’”

I’m not exactly jumping up and down - by uradu (Score: 3, Insightful) Thread
Until regular old read-only drives become cheap and plentiful—nay, let’s just even say available for now—my enthusiasm is somewhat dampened.

Yay - by blackmonday (Score: 3, Insightful) Thread
This was the same story for CDR, DVDR, etc. Eventually, a spindle will be available for 12 bucks at Fry’s. I am hoping it’s not a long wait, this kind of storage will be great for those of us who make frequent backups of our home directories.

Re:$10 for 20GB+ R/W is cheaper than a thumb drive - by Eccles (Score: 3, Insightful) Thread
It’s especially cheap compared to the value of that time. I’ve been trying to back up photos on DVDs, but with the amount of pics and movies I can take with a 2 GB card, it’s a pretty time-consuming process. On the other hand, with 500 GB external drives for ~$140, that’s less than $6 for 20 GB, so that’s still a cheaper option at the moment.

Taiwan is NOT “Thai” ! - by Golgafrinchan (Score: 5, Interesting) Thread
Ritek is a Taiwanese company.

The headline implies that Ritek is located in Thailand.

Way to go, American geography experts!



Re:Taiwan is NOT “Thai” ! - by L. VeGas (Score: 5, Funny) Thread

Way to go, American geography experts!
How do you know they live in North America? They could be from Canada, you know.

Should Games Be More Boring?
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An anonymous reader writes “At Gamasutra, serious games creator Ian Bogost is making the case that video games should be more mundane, particularly discussing of Nintendo’ Brain Age: ‘It’s certainly a very different kind of game from Halo or even Miyamoto’s own Zelda series, games that allow the player to inhabit complex fantasy worlds. Instead, much of Brain Age’s success seems to come precisely from the ordinariness of its demands.’ Would games become more accessible if they tapped into everyday things a little bit more, as opposed to spiralling off into fictional realities?”

I will address this question - by Timesprout (Score: 3, Funny) Thread
When i wake up after my Halo induced nap.

*Extremely* wrong headline - by HanClinto (Score: 3, Insightful) Thread
Mundane != Boring. 
 
This title is just wrong. Zonk, is there any way we could please change it?  
 
Mundane means commonplace, everyday, ordinary. Boring means uninteresting. Not the same. The article is not saying that games should be less interesting — the article is saying that games could do well to apply more to real life, and to real skills (I.E. Smooth Moves having players balance brooms on their hands). 
 
I’m all for making games more mundane — I think it’s a great idea, and it’s a phenomenal idea for making games ultimately more fun. If “fun” is about learning patterns (as Raph Koster posits), then it only makes sense to build off of patterns that are found in real life (hence why driving games are so much fun). 
 
However, I’m [b]not[/b] in support of making the games boring.

Ordinary != Boring - by drinkypoo (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread

It’s absolutely ordinary for there to be shootings in South Central LA, but it’s not boring.

To say Brain Age is boring because the tasks are ordinary displays stupidity and a lack of vocabulary. Rather simple vocabulary, I might add.

Also, the link is to the third page of the story, which is where Brain Age is discussed, but it is bad form.

Enough about the stupidity of anonymous cowards and their story submissions, on to where I talk shit about the article!

The article is just pathetic. “television is so familiar, it’s not even startling to think about television programming produced solely to discuss other media forms.” This is in response to a comment about TV shows about making movies. But there are movies about making things, and on this planet we call them documentaries. This lack of ability to stop and notice reality pervades the article, which is split into three pages to garner ad impressions, but has little enough content to have been on one page of this size.

His summary (which is not actually a summary - this not being an essay, but a meandering rant) follows: “we should want games to be more boring. Not just some games, we should want many of them, maybe even most of them to be boring, so that the ones that are not can become the Casablancas of our future medium.” What he seems to be saying here is that we should want games to be crap, so that the non-crap can look even better by comparison.

Say it with me: mundane does not equal boring. Sure, most things which are mundane are also boring. But then there’s sex.



Gah - by toolie (Score: 4, Funny) Thread
This article reinforces my belief that most people are complete and total idiots and don’t have anything better to do than show everybody else how much they just don’t get it. 
 
Yeah, yeah, I know… kind of like this post.

Boring vs Diverse - by Raindance (Score: 4, Interesting) Thread
Of course games shouldn’t be more boring (with the caveat that games should stay away from pressing peoples’ addiction buttons). 
 
But yes, I think it would be good (for developers and for gamers) for games to break out into more genres. Here’s a quote from Rod Humble, Executive Producer of The Sims, which neatly sums up a good way to think about this:

I don’t know if there’s any fixed lifecycle for the Sims franchise because I think that it can go a lot more places. Part of the mandate that I had when I took over the position is to really break this franchise out into a more mainstream audience. So the way I like to look at the franchise is walk into a bookstore and take every video game you know and just place them on a shelf in the bookstore. And I think you’ll find they tend to cluster a lot in certain areas in the bookstore. And I want the Sims to fill up the rest of the bookstore.


High Paying Jobs in Math and Science?
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An anonymous reader asks: “Where are the high paying jobs for those who are good in math and science? I’ve heard about math and science shortages for almost two decades now, and I was wondering what high salary/high demand jobs have resulted from these shortages. Most science majors I know actually make less than teachers (in Texas teachers make $38-40K to start for nine months of work). In terms of money, what career would you pursue coming out of college right now with a math or science degree?”

The tags say it all - by Marxist Hacker 42 (Score: 4, Interesting) Thread
Get an MBA, then do something in the financial industry, which has a stranglehold on everything else to the extent of destroying progress. American corporations and government no longer care for education or REAL progress, unless it can make a buck, and even then aren’t willing to reward the people who actually create that progress.

Re:Teachers - by Mathonwy (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
Sorry, but had to bring something up here: 
 
Show me a teacher who only puts in the hours 8-4, and I’ll show you a teacher that the administration feels “isn’t putting in the effort”, and “is only doing the minimum needed to get by”. 
 
And the thing is, they’re right. 8-4 is just the time they are required to be AT SCHOOL, in the room. Any teacher worth their salt spends plenty of extra time making sure that their lessons are prepared for the next day (or week) and that they are generally ready for anything the class can throw at them. Teaching doesn’t just “happen”; it requires a tremendous amount of prep and organizational work. 
 
Also, the vacation is lengthy, but fairly inflexible. Hope you don’t want to take any time off OTHER than what the district says, or you’ve got some problems. Want to take a month off in March instead? Too bad! It’s definitely a trade off. 
 
Don’t get me wrong, the vacation time is nice, but it has its flip side, and if you think it’s a 40 hour a week job, you’re deluding yourself. (Or talking about the crappy teachers who DO deserve the low end.) 
 
Which brings us to… 
“but why should experienced teachers get more money than the new teachers. They are doing the same job” 
 
Erm. 
 
EXCUSE ME? 
 
Let me turn it around, and see if I can point out just a little bit of hubris on your part. Why should an experienced software developer get more money than a new one? They’re doing the same job? Why should an experienced ANYONE get more money? 
 
Answer: Because they do it better. Because years of experience mean that they will generally be more efficient at whatever the job is, do it better, with fewer errors, and have more bandwith to deal with more things. They will also have the experience to deal with the stranger situations that pop up, and will generally require less supervision and be more valuable employees. If you somehow think that this doesn’t apply to teachers just as much as it applies to anyone else, then you have a very distorted view of teaching.

Only a shortage for the brilliant - by DrDitto (Score: 4, Insightful) Thread
There is no shortage of math and science majors. I’m nearing completion of a PhD in science, and if I could go back 6 years, I would go to law school instead. Yes, there is a shortage of brilliant scientists and mathematicians because hey, our economy depends on innovation that comes from the elite few. Science and math jobs? Maybe you can call engineering jobs related to science and math and of course corporations don’t want there to be demand of engineering students because that would drive up salaries.

The one you like - by kevin_conaway (Score: 5, Informative) Thread
In terms of money, what career would you pursue coming out of college right now with a math or science degree?

The one you’re most interested in. Seriously, if all you care about is money, go be an investment banker or a money whore somewhere else. Our field is littered with people like you who get a job hoping for big bucks but end up circling the drain for a few years while producing horrible work.

However, software engineers at the various consultancies pay fairly well. Perhaps the R&D arm of a pharmaceutical company as well.



I could not disagree more - by anomaly (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
The challenge is that the current generation of college students and recent graduates has been led to believe that they are entitled to a life filled with stuff and with little self-sacrifice required. 
 
If *everyone* would learn to adjust their expectations about what constitutes a minimal acceptable standard of living so that they can live without debt within or - gasp - below their means - our culture would be wealthier, stronger, and better equipped to face challenges. 
 
My next door neighbors are first generation immigrants from El Salvador. They have a three bedroom house which the two parents, three kids, his dad, her mom, share the house with two renters who live in the basement. 9 people in a 1700 square foot house! This is in one of the wealthiest counties in the States. The mom and dad have two jobs. The grandmother has a job, and the dad has occasional work on a third job. These are people who have little education and very poor English skills. They are thrilled to have the opportunity to live in this country, and they are making it happen. It’s tough going, but a better deal than in Central America, and they consider it a privilege to have American citizenship. Perhaps we should, too. 
 
Most of these college kids could live at home, have a part time job, enroll in community college for core credits, before transferring to a 4 year college, drastically cutting their tuition. They could refuse to allow themselves to spend more on their credit card than they can pay in a given month. They could live off-campus with several roommates to minimize housing costs. They could forego cable, cell phones and cars to reduce their expenses until their income increases. 
 
Instead, our culture of consumption tells people that they should “buy it now.” People actually think that they cannot expect to pay off a car or a house within their lifetime. Ridiculous! 
 
We’re generally narcissistic and convinced that stuff, power, or sex will satisfy us. This leads to frustration, deeper debt, and hopelessness. 
 
It’s not that life is hard and these kids are victims! It’s that mostly they think that they have to obtain a standard of living that is higher than their income, and they become indentured servants at 20%/year interest.

Misc :: RE: On This Date...

The Medusa Fora
Author: O'Blivion
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:58 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 615

May 23

Ah...an important day, it seems.

Today is Shavout in the Jewish faith. It commemorates the day
Yahweh gave the Torah to Charleton Heston, or something.


Today is also World Turtle Day. You may celebrate
Turtle Day in a variety of manners, some of which are
dressing up as turtles or saving turtles caught on highways.


And, in the Discordian faith, today is the Day of Disunity.


On this date in 1498, Girolamo Savonarola
was burned at the stake in Florence, Italy, on the
orders of Pope Alexander VI. There is a certain
amount of irony to this sentence.

Savonarola had been for some time the leader of a rather modern
democratic republic in Florence. Characterizing it as a “Christian
and religious Republic,” one of its first acts was to make sodomy,
previously punishable by fine, into a capital offence.

In 1497 he and his followers carried out the Bonfire of the Vanities. They sent boys
from door to door collecting items associated with moral laxity: mirrors, cosmetics, lewd
pictures, pagan books, sculptures, gaming tables, chess pieces, lutes and other musical
instruments, fine dresses, women’s hats, and the works of immoral poets, and burnt them
all in a large pile in the Piazza della Signoria of Florence. Many fine Florentine
Renaissance artworks were lost in Savonarola’s notorious bonfires, including paintings by
Sandro Botticelli and Michelangelo Buonarroti which were thrown on the pyres by the
artists themselves.

Florence soon became tired of Savonarola because of the city’s continual political and
economic miseries, where God did not seem to intervene, and the Last Days did not
seem to come about. During his Ascension Day sermon on May 4, 1497, bands of youths
rioted, and the riot became a revolt: taverns reopened, and men gambled publicly.



On May 13, 1497 he was excommunicated by Pope Alexander VI, and in 1498, Alexander
demanded his arrest and execution. On April 8, a crowd attacked the convent of San Marco;
after a bloody struggle, Savonarola surrendered along with his two closest ssociates. He was charged
with heresy, uttering prophecies, sedition, and religious error.

During the next several weeks all three were tortured on the rack. All three signed confessions;
the torturers spared only Savonarola’s right arm, in order that he might be able to sign his
confession, which he did sometime prior to May 8.

On the day of his execution, the three men taken out to the Piazza della Signoria . They were ritually stripped of their
vestments, degraded as heretics and chismatics, and given over to the secular authorities to be burned. The three
were hanged in chains from a single cross; an enormous fire was lit beneath them; they were thereby executed
in the same place where the Bonfire of the Vanities was lit, and in the same
manner that he had condemned others.

His executioner lit the flame exclaiming, “The one who wanted to burn me is now himself put to the flames.”




Second Defenestration of Prague

At Prague Castle on May 23, 1618, an assembly of Protestants
tried two Imperial governors for violating the Right of Freedom of
Religion, found them guilty, and threw them, together with their scribe,
out of the high windows of the Bohemian Chancellery. They landed on
a large pile of manure and all survived unharmed.

Roman Catholic Imperial officials claimed that the three men survived due
to the mercy of the benevolent angels assisting the righteousness of the
Catholic cause. Protestant pamphleteers asserted that their survival had
more to do with the horse excrement in which they landed than the
benevolent acts of angels.




In 1900, Sgt William Harvey Carney became the first African
American to be awarded the Medal of Honor, for his heroism in the
Civil War. Carney served with the 54th Massachusetts Volunteer
Infantry as a sergeant and took part in the July 18, 1863, assault on
Battery Wagner in Charleston, South Carolina. He received his medal
for saving the American flag and planting it on the parapet and holding
it while the troops charged. He was wounded four times, but recognizing
the Federal troops had to retreat under fire, he struggled back across the
battlefield, returning the flag to the Union lines. Before turning over the
colors he modestly said, "Boys, I only did my duty; the old flag never
touched the ground
!"

He was awarded the Medal of Honor for his bravery 40 years later. The
events are shown in the film Glory. He was also portrayed in an
episode of the popular TV program Sabrina the Teenage Witch.



In 1969, The Who released Tommy.

Born This Day:

Animal Magnetist Franz Mesmer


Maj. Gen. Ambrose E. Burnside


Douglas Fairbanks Sr


Artie Shaw (with Lana Turner, right)


Bluegrass legend Mac Wiseman


Rosemary Clooney




Luka Bloom


Jewel

Died This Day:

Captain Kidd


Kit Carson


Henrik Ibsen (sketch by Edvard Munch)


Bonnie & Clyde


Heinrich Himmler


Sterling Hayden

Still Dead:

Jerry Falwell, John McCain's chances of being elected President.
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Misc :: RE: What Song are you listening to?

The Medusa Fora
Author: Mick Molloy
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:56 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 8651

TheIrishRover said:



''Eiland in de Reagen'' by Rowwen Hèze


Hell yeah!

Dark Streets of London (from the Alkohol boot)
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Misc :: RE: What Song are you listening to?

The Medusa Fora
Author: philipchevron
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:55 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 8651

THE POGUES Streams Of Whiskey (BBC, April 10, 1984)
THE POGUES Dingle Regatta/Holly Johnsons (BBC, June 21, 1984)
THE POGUES Connemara Let's Go! [aka Down In The Ground Where The Dead Men Go] (BBC, June 21, 1984)
THE POGUES Danny Boy (BBC, December 4, 1984)
THE POGUES Billy's Bones (BBC, July 2, 1985)
THE POGUES Rake At The Gates Of Hell (BBC, October 22, 1986)
THE POGUES Turkish Song Of The Damned (BBC, October 22, 1986)
THE POGUES Once Upon A Time (BBC, Jan 17, 1994)

Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

The Medusa Fora
Author: Heather
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:52 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3067

Mark_Wafc said:


ive just dropped my boss off at John Lennon airport, thousands of the feckers everywhere. please god let Milan win this tonight, 5 times is more than enough!!


My boss left early yesterday, two whole days without him shouting round the office - bliss. Cool

He's getting a flight back at about four in the morning and guaranteed he'll be in at 9am.

It doesn't matter if they win or not, he'll still be in a bad mood.

He never talks about anything else but Liverpool FC and business.

Shared Glory :: RE: The Tossers

The Medusa Fora
Author: philofbelloni
Subject: WILL THE TOSSERS HAVE A FULL SET IN BOSTON?
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:46 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 124

I've been told by the wife we "have plans" during the July 5th performance in Boston.
If someone can be assure me that the Tossers will have a full setlist I'd be more than willing to use a get out jail free card for that evening.
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Misc :: RE: What tune is stuck in your head?

The Medusa Fora
Author: Heather
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:45 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 594

Ring Of Fire - Johnny Cash.

For some strange reason everyone has been whistling this in work today. Wink

Except of course for the Evertonians.

Misc :: RE: What Song are you listening to?

The Medusa Fora
Author: Simon Maguire
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:40 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 8651

Philip, your making me itich with excitement everytime you post these 'new' Pogues songs your listening too. I loves you so much Embarassed
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Misc :: RE: What tune is stuck in your head?

The Medusa Fora
Author: Frances
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:30 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 594

'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe
All mimsy were the borogoves
And the mome raths outgrabe

"'Twas Brillig" -Sterling Holloway
C=H=E=S=I=R=E = C=A=T

Ubuntu Founder Says Microsoft Not A Big Threat
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Golygydd Max writes “Who says that Microsoft and open source developers are enemies? It’s not Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth. He says that Microsoft is not the patent threat Linux and open source developers should be worried about, and that the software giant will itself be fighting against the software patents system within a few years. ‘He said the most dangerous litigants are companies not themselves in the software business, small ventures or holding companies that get their principal revenue from patent licensing. He singled out former Microsoft CTO Nathan Myhrvold and his company Intellectual Ventures, which is stockpiling patents at a rate that alarms large companies such as IBM and HP, as an example of such a potentially dangerous company.’”

Lobbyists - by iamacat (Score: 5, Informative) Thread
Nah, once big software companies feel threatened rather than empowered by patents, lobbyists will make sure that laws gets passed to protect them. One onerous requirement might be for a patent holder to maintain a credible product in commercial production in order to sue others for royalties. This will be phrased to stop patent-only law firms that skim companies without innovation themselves, but will take care of open source authors quite nicely.

Re:Lobbyists - by ronadams (Score: 5, Interesting) Thread
One onerous requirement might be for a patent holder to maintain a credible product in commercial production in order to sue others for royalties. Add “or be able to substantially prove ready plans in development to do so” to that, and you’ve got my vote. This idea of patents being some repository to hold ideas hostage is really detrimental to the technology market. Kudos to Shuttlesworth for pointing out our common enemy.

Re:Reform the System - by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve (Score: 5, Interesting) Thread
Why not just (common sense)reform the patent system, thus crushing this holding companies?  
 
I’ve explained this before. I used to work for the US government many years ago. Look at it from Uncle Sam’s perspective. 
 
1) The patent office makes money. A lot of it. Unlike other government agencies who consume tax dollars, the patent office makes a profit. Profit = good. Why would you “reform” an agency who is making you a ton of money and thus make less money? 
2) Businesses have yet to scream en masse that patent reform = a good thing. Until Microsoft and IBM and Cisco and Intel and lots of Fortune 500 companies say “The system is hurting us and costing us more money than you are making under the current system. A reform would actually bring you more money.” then it will never happen. 
3) Government bureaucrats are outstandingly good at protecting their own turf. Expect patent office mangement to fight tooth and nail against reforms. 
4) The government is convinced that this is win-win for everyone because it’s like Mutual Assured Destruction. Everyone has patents, so nobody will use them unfairly. Unfortunately, the reality is that Shuttlesworth is right. The company everyone should fear is the company that has nothing but patents, like the guys who went after BlackBerry. 
5) Most people in Congress are lawyers. Most lawyers like patents. It provides easy work for other lawyers on both the “infringing” companies and the IP holders doing the suing. If everybody is being sued, lawyers have lots of work and earn lots of money. Win-win!

Re:Reform the System - by Kadin2048 (Score: 5, Interesting) Thread
I’m not convinced that any sort of software algorithm should be patentable, but if we are going to allow patents on some narrowly-defined “implementations,” which might involve software at some point in them (but not being wholly comprised of software), I think it’s pretty clear that the term of the patents needs to be substantially reduced. 
 
The term of our patents was set in an era when sending a message from one city to another took days, or if it was separated by an ocean, weeks (potentially months). The flow of information moved at a completely different pace. Ten years then would have been a very brief time in which to bring a product to market. In today’s world, I think it would be about 12-18 months: just enough to give the patentee a slight advantage over the rest of the marketplace, but not enough for them to amass an arsenal of patents with which to destroy all competition. 
 
Now, perhaps there’s something to be said for somewhat longer patents on pharmaceuticals, because of the long government-mandated review process that they have to go through, before they can become profitable (and which mandate disclosure of the ingredients, meaning that keeping it a trade secret isn’t an option). However, I think this should clearly be the exception rather than the rule. 
 
A patent length of a year — five or at most ten for pharmaceuticals — non-renewable, would do wonders towards improving competition and the production of new ideas in the technology sector. (While we’re at it, lets have a 20-year copyright span, too.) Unfortunately I think by the time the major players come around to realizing that the system is hurting more than it’s helping, the U.S. will be increasingly irrelevant.

Re:Microsoft to Ubuntu - by h2_plus_O (Score: 5, Informative) Thread

what the fuck does Ubuntu mean?
it’s actually a pretty cool concept, tho (as with any good idea) it’s been variously interpreted and applied. 
from Wikipedia:
”… the concept of ubuntu defines the individual in terms of their several relationships with others […] while the Zulu maxim umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu (“a person is a person through (other) persons”) may have no apparent religious connotations in the context of Western society, in an African context it suggests that the person one is to become by behaving with humanity is an ancestor worthy of respect or veneration.”
In other words, it’s a contextual view of humanity as being constituted of relationships. We are the relationships we have.

Michigan Man Charged for Using Free WiFi
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Nichole writes “Sam Peterson II was charged with unauthorized use of computer access for using a coffee shop’s free WiFi. He is facing a 5 year felony charge and a $10,000 fine but apparently got off lucky and received only a $400 fine and 40 hours of community service because he was a first time offender. ‘it seems few in the village of Sparta, Mich., were aware that using an unsecured Wi-Fi connection without the owner’s permission—a practice known as piggybacking—was a felony. Each day around lunch time, Sam Peterson would drive to the Union Street Cafe, park his car and—without actually entering the coffee shop—check his e-mail and surf the Net. His ritual raised the suspicions of Police Chief Andrew Milanowski, who approached him and asked what he was doing. Peterson, probably not realizing that his actions constituted a crime, freely admitted what he was doing … [the officer] didn’t immediately cite or arrest Peterson, mostly because he wasn’t certain a crime had been committed.’”

Laws and Mores - by drDugan (Score: 4, Interesting) Thread
This is yet another example of a serious, growing problem with the American mentality. 
 
We can not legislate all aspects of human behavior. It simply won’t work. 
 
Healthy societies have both laws and mores to shape human behavior. Laws derive from a logical/thinking framework, and mores are primarily from an emotional/feeling framework. All people have the ability to use both thinking and feeling in making decisions about what is right or wrong. But in American society, and more generally in a capitalist mentality, laws and money interests have so completely dominated that people have forgotten about the mores. 
 
Mores are like laws, but enforced by society feedback, typically emotional feedback. People frown at Bob if he acts like an ass, and he understands that he should stop acting like that, because Bob doesn’t like it when people frown at him. That is because Bob is healthy and likes to have healthy happy people around him. Note, nowhere in here are we able to legislate that Bob “acting like an ass” is illegal in a logical way. 
 
We can that the Bush administration as the PRIMARY promoter of this mentality: “If it is not illegal, than I can get away with it.” As such shining examples leading the USA today, more and more people (like Enron) are saying, “Hell, why not me too?” 
 
This problem will not stop unless and until people start giving strong emotional feedback (disapproval, and eventually ostracizing people) for bad behavior. 
 

Contact Info - by Anonymous Coward (Score: 4, Informative) Thread
Sparta Police Department 
Chief Andrew Milanowski 
260 W. Division 
Sparta, MI 49345 
General Phone: 616-887-8716 
Fax: 616-887-7681 
Email: policechief@spartami.org 
 
T Lynn Hopkins 
Firm: Kent County Prosecuting Attorney 
Address: 333 Monroe Ave NW 
Grand Rapids, MI 49503-2211 
Phone: (616) 774-3577 
Fax: (616) 336-3095

Fifth amendment? - by KarmaMB84 (Score: 5, Interesting) Thread
The officer extracted a confession out of a citizen without informing them of their rights. Can we now expect officers to start feigning ignorance about obscure laws only to claim later they looked it up and then use previous confessions to throw people in jail?

Re:Fifth amendment? - by grape jelly (Score: 3, Interesting) Thread
I’m amending point #1. :) 
 
1. The fifth amendment doesn’t guarantee you protection against self-incrimination. Rather, it allows you to legally deny requests from the authorities whose results may incriminate you (e.g., avoidance of obstruction of justice charges). You can have a right not to answer their questions, deliver evidence, etc., etc., etc, on the condition that it would demonstrate you guilty of *some* crime. 
 
If we assume voluntary confessions inadmissible in court as a result of the fifth amendment, nobody would be able to plead guilty to a crime — that constitutes self-incrimination. Similarly, criminals who turn themselves in would have to be turned away because by turning themselves in, they are incriminating themselves. 
 
The officer asked the man, “What are you doing?” It was and still is fully within the man’s right to say, “I with to use my fifth amendment right and not answer.” However, the man unwittingly offered up what amounted to an admissible confession, and was thusly boned.

Bravo! - by evil_aar0n (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
> Milanowski didn’t immediately cite or arrest Peterson, mostly because he wasn’t certain a crime had been committed. “I had a feeling a law was being broken,” the chief said. Milanowski did some research and found Michigan’s “Fraudulent access to computers, computer systems, and computer networks” law, a felony punishable by five years in prison and a $10,000 fine. 
 
A job well done to chief Milanowski. Way to dig for a tool to hit the guy with. Instead of tracking down drug dealers, thieves or physically abusive spouses - or even setting speed traps - he’s protecting the town against wi-fi users. I feel so much safer… 
 
I wonder if it came into consideration the idea that a) using a freely offered wi-fi connection doesn’t seem to cover the intent of the law as described; and b) the cafe offered the wi-fi connection _freely_. Whether it was offered specifically to customers or anyone in a radius - which isn’t made clear - the cafe was offering and didn’t even complain about the guy using it. They certainly could either post a sign saying, “Must be a customer to use this service,” like restrooms, or enable a key that would be given out only to customers. 
 
Again, Bravo! to chief Wiggum - oops, Milanowski - for going well out of his way to bust someone. You, sir, are a shining example of what law enforcement should be like - in a police state…

mediation, documentaries, jeff lewis, will oldham, my beard

too much coffee man


Remember the pile of stink I stepped in when I blogged about not wanting to give Gary my hard-earned money?
http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/03/when-gary-met-shannon/

Looks like Harlan Ellsion and Gary Groth are looking at mediation as a conflict resolution.
http://www.comicsreporter.com/index.php/ellison_vs_fantagraphics_to_mediation/
I like to think that I might have inadvertently opened up some of the lines of communication. Funny, me not wanting to give Gary money actually helped stop the lawsuit. You're welcome Gary.

That old too much coffee man converse commercial is finally up on youtube
http://youtube.com/watch?v=x45toZb6-Lc

I have a bit part in a documentary; Burnt Chocolate Water... at Hollywood Theater here in Portland. I was supposed to go to the opening last Friday night but it stressed me out too much. I don't want to see how awkward I am. I saw Miranda July instead.
http://www.burntchocolatewater.com/
Tomorrow night I'm going. I'm going to get drunk, but I'm going. People I know who saw it, liked it.

I was wondering what one of my favorite singer-songwriter guys, Jeffrey Lewis, was up to, so I emailed him. Turns out he's opening for Daniel Johnston at some sort of festival in England. How cool is that. He pointed me to a video of his Will Oldham song. Damn if it didn't make me laugh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSdZ_yZP8bk


say goodbye to the Rasputin-Shannon

Royale with Cheese?
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http://wwff.wordpress.com/2007/05/18/royale-with-cheese

...you probably know [that in France] McDonald's serves the Royale with Cheese (thanks to the famous scene in Pulp Fiction), but did you know that McDonald's all around the world offer a number of different items catering to their cultures?

OK, you might've known. But you might not know exactly what they serve.

Here's some of your McDonald's options in countries all over the world...


At Will Work For Food.

[cc: destinations; blogs & zines]

John Wayne: An 'indestructible' American legend
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/23/film.johnwayne.ap/inde...

On the 100th anniversary of John Wayne's birth, the Duke still swaggers through the American psyche as not just an actor, but a patriot -- his centennial spawning fond remembrance, and perhaps a few small protests on the side.

Wayne's legacy is unique because of the dual perspectives that pervade his memory. Pulitzer Prize-winning author and historian Garry Wills, who wrote "John Wayne's America" in 1997, described Wayne as "the most popular movie star ever, but also the most polarizing."

It could be argued that no other film actor has ever come to symbolize so many things: rugged masculinity, the frontier, even America itself. The Duke has remained, in the truest sense, an icon...

Wayne, born Marion Robert Morrison, would have turned 100 on Saturday. He died at 72 of stomach cancer in June 1979 after a career that spanned more than 170 films. He didn't win an Academy Award until 1970 for his performance in "True Grit"...


John Wayne's birthplace in Winterset, Iowa, site of centennial celebration.

Belkin : My best FM stations
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http://www.belkin.com/mybestfm

What's the best FM station for use with your spiffy iPod FM transmitter? Plug in your zipcode, and this site provides you with multiple radio dial choices for clean transmission.

Outsmart Your Toddler: 5 tricks for getting yours to...
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/parenting/05/23/par.outsmart.kids/in...

5 tricks for getting yours to do what you want

The battle lines were drawn: It was me against him. And he, my 2-year-old, was a formidable opponent...

Somehow, my master's degree in psychology had lulled me into the mistaken notion that motherhood would be a piece of cake. I knew the latest child-rearing theories. I'd handle behavior problems with finesse.

Ha.

Never did I envision how challenging raising a stubborn and feisty toddler would be. Thankfully, I've now learned several great toddler-taming strategies that work quite well. Sometimes, I've found, you need to save the "I am the parent! Do as I say!" approach and try a little creative thinking...


By Deborah Carpenter of Parenting.com

FDA approves birth-control pill that halts menstruation
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18745930

The first birth-control pill meant to put a stop to women's monthly periods indefinitely won federal approval Tuesday.

Called Lybrel, it's the first such pill to receive Food and Drug Administration approval for continuous use. When taken daily, the pill can halt women's menstrual periods indefinitely and prevent pregnancies.

Lybrel is the latest approved oral contraceptive to depart from the 21-days-on, seven-days-off regimen that had been standard since birth-control pill sales began in the 1960s. The pill, manufactured by Wyeth, is the first designed to put off periods altogether when taken without break.

The pill isn't for everyone, an FDA official said. About half the women enrolled in studies of Lybrel dropped out...Many did so because of the irregular and unscheduled bleeding and spotting that can replace scheduled menstruation.

Wyeth plans to start Lybrel sales in July...

Green Homeowners Go Off the Power Grid - Los Angeles Times
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http://www.latimes.com/business/investing/wire/sns-ap-off-grid-livi...

Before power lines, homesteaders had no choice. They lit their lanterns, stoked their fires and packed away winter ice against sizzling summers.

Owners of about 250 homes in the Three Rivers community near this central Oregon lake are far from homesteading or camping out. But they are among a growing number of Americans who shun power lines, choosing to live "off the grid," without commercial power.

Another interesting article about living off the grid
Off The Grid.net Free Yourself
Off the grid or on, solar and wind power gain USA Today

Real Life Pirate Hangouts
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http://www.gadling.com/2007/05/22/real-life-pirate-hangouts

This Thursday, May 24 will see the U.S. release of a brand new chapter in the adventures of Jack Sparrow in The Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End. While fans across the globe are warming their hands in anticipation, and studios are counting the dollar signs, we decided to put fiction aside and find out where the real life, modern pirates are still hanging out these days.

The search takes us from the Bay of Bengal to the treacherous waters off the coast of Somalia -- from the Nigerian Delta to the Strait of Malacca, where grenade launching pirates cruise around in speed boats, stealing oil and robbing cruise ships. Where are the hot-spots? What's really the most dangerous shipping port in the world? No offense, Jack, but it's time to find out where the real life pirates hang out.

Live shows :: RE: Plans for 2007

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Author: Mike from Boston
Subject: Re: germany germany??
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:11 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 217

philipchevron said:

lavabe said:

really? so what do you expect after 17 years of absence? there has to be some promotion for that bringing you back in mind...i know it´s difficult....think it only works with new stuff...germany is the 3rd biggest music market in the world...should be worth it.


After 17 years, we expect absolutely nothing. It is always a pleasant and welcome surprise when people are prepared to book us for large sums of money.

But if they don't, that's OK too. We all have good lives to be getting on with. We are not performing seals willing to do some "promotion" so that we may be "brought back to mind". That's for sweaty little boys who still need to be educated in the size of international record "markets" and who, moreover, have yet to learn that while they are busy wrecking their health and sanity on badly remunerated "promotion" with the carrot of future riches dangled in front of their hungry eyes, record companies, promoters, agents and managers all mysteriously contrive to make top dollar from Day One.

We are The Pogues, man. The freakin' POGUES!! Cool



As a total outsider to the music industry, my only inside knowledge comes from my brother-in-law who grew with the Mothersbaugh brothers of DEVO.

Confirming what Mr. Chevron said, he was told they made more money
from having their music in the movie Casino then their net income from years of touring.

Live shows :: RE: Plans for 2007

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Author: Anonymous
Subject: japan gigs with a dash of avuncular
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:01 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 217

no japan ? thats a shame. hopefully 2008 then . (@_@)))))))))))))))))))))))

Breathnach means Walsh in Irish . yes . the 3rd sign has revealed itself.

Speaker's Corner :: RE: Little Green

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Author: Grievous Angel
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:15 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 6

That's some really good stuff! Very well-played, and I like the lead singer's voice. It's just rather annoying that pretty much every country in the world is doing country music better than the U.S. nowadays. Damn Nashvegas...

Misc :: RE: What Movie Are You Watching Or Watched Today?

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Author: Frances
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:11 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 2232

Lord of War

'Twas o.k., for a stupid movie. Jordan Catalano can't act though. I did want to see him play Mark David Chapman in Chapter 27 but ,apparently, it's toast.

Agreed to see The Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End friday. I just read that it runs 2 hrs. 55 minutes... WTF? We're going to an old school theater too. Ouch! No pie rat movie needs to run 3 hours... oh my gawd.

Misc :: RE: What Song are you listening to?

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Author: TheIrishRover
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:58 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 8648

philipchevron said:

THE POGUES Aisling
THE POGUES Victoria (Instrumental)
THE POGUES Lust For Vomit


Nothing like a bit of vomit to get your love flowing... Confused

''Eiland in de Reagen'' by Rowwen Hèze
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Shane MacGowan :: RE: Shane singing Spancil Hill w/ Christy Moore

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Author: Low D
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:54 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 30

Smerker said:


I remember hearing somewhere from Christy (it may have been his autobiography, or The Great Hunger)


That would be The Great Hunger.

Smerker said:


The performance would be much improved if someone didn't shout "Yo!...yoyoyo yo yo!! at the end of it. Spoils the mood a little.


I agree. Funny thing is, tho, i think that may be Gay Byrne, then-host of the Late Late Show, himself. Sounds like him, anyway. Speaking of "sounds like", anybody notice who the backing band on that lovely duet is? that would be Hothouse Flowers. They do add a bit of punch with those whistles & strings.

The performance is originally from a whole Late Late Show tribute to Christy Moore, and while there's some good stuff on there, i'd call Spancil Hill the highlight.

Speaker's Corner :: RE: The God Delusion

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Author: Beisty
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:43 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 4

Ah. Missed that one, thanks.
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Female Sharks Can Reproduce Alone
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mikesd81 writes “The Washington Post has an article about a team of American and Irish researchers that have discovered that some female sharks can reproduce without having sex, the first time that scientists have found the unusual capacity in such an ancient vertebrate species. Their report concludes that sharks can reproduce asexually through the process known as parthenogenesis (the growth and development of an embryo or seed without fertilization by a male). Scientists started investigating after a female hammerhead shark was mysteriously born at Omaha’s Henry Doorly Zoo in a tank that housed 3 female sharks. It was originally thought one had stored sperm from a male shark before fertilizing an egg. However, baby shark’s genetic makeup perfectly matched one of the females in the tank, with no sign of a male parent.”

Great White Jesus? - by xxxJonBoyxxx (Score: 2) Thread

Scientists started investigating after a…shark was mysteriously born at Omaha’s Henry Doorly Zoo in a tank that housed 3 female sharks…with no sign of a male parent.”
 
 
Has anyone looked into the possibility that this infant shark is the Great White Jesus? (I’d hate to be the angel that messed up the avatar selection for the second coming.) 


On Henry Doorly - by ender81b (Score: 4, Informative) Thread
Just a quick note, if you are ever in the Omaha, Nebraska area definitely stop by Henry Doorly Zoo. It’s probably the nation’s second best zoo behind San Diego’s, and the shark tunnel is fantastic. As are the penguins, and the desert dome, and indoor jungle, and… A few winters ago we went to the Zoo and the place was deserted. Was able to just lay down in the Shark Tunnel and watch the sharks swim overhead for about a half hour with no one coming down. Was fantastic. At any rate, also — as far as the article goes — I wish someone would have some more explanation for how this works. Kindof freaky.

Re:Obligatory - by Goobermunch (Score: 3, Informative) Thread
No, you shouldn’t. Hermaphrodism is the presence of sex organs for both genders. These sharks are all female. They just happen to be able to parthenogenically reproduce. 
 
—AC

All the geeks … - by eck011219 (Score: 4, Funny) Thread
… at splashdot.org were just ruled obsolete. Slashdotters, beware … we’re next!

Necessary improvement - by 6Yankee (Score: 3, Funny) Thread
They were forced to evolve this ability after all the males were killed in frickin’ laser accidents during mating attempts.

AllofMP3 Voucher Resellers Quit After Police Raid
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Broohaha writes “Europeans who resell AllofMP3.com vouchers are quitting the business after a UK raid against one prominent reseller there. An Ars Technica article talks to several of them about their situations. ‘Until a few days ago, I had never heard of the IFPI [the international music trade group],’ said one reseller. ‘But yes, I am concerned about them now. Although my attorney assures me that reselling gift certificates bought from AllOfMP3.com isn’t breaking any laws, it isn’t worth the possibility of engagement with their legal machine.’ The music industry seems determined to choke off AllofMP3’s funding, no matter how small the source.”

Legal system problem - by MobyDisk (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
This quote has the essence of the biggest problem in the 20th century, boiled down to one simple sentence:

Although my attorney assures me that reselling gift certificates bought from AllOfMP3.com isn’t breaking any laws, it isn’t worth the possibility of engagement with their legal machine.’
I would paraphrase that to:
Although what I am doing is legal, I dare not engage the legal system
Which makes justice impossible. No justice, kiss freedom goodbye.

my attorney in the UK ? - by Anonymous Coward (Score: 4, Insightful) Thread
 
since when has anybody in the UK called a solicitor or lawyer/barrister an “attorney” 
that word is used almost exclusivly by Americans, was this reseller an American in the UK or was the “quote” edited for a US audience 
 
smells like bullshit here in London

actionable? - by sammy baby (Score: 5, Interesting) Thread
Okay, first, IANAL. But I know that in the US, harassment of a company’s business partners can be considered actionable under RICO. Anyone know if AllOfMP3 may be able to bring a suit against IFPI?

The RIAA wins then… - by BecomingLumberg (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
I guess the RIAA wins… I’ll just have to go back to BitTorrent…

Re:The RIAA wins then… - by NetDanzr (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
Actually, that’s exactly what I was recommending to my friends to whom I previously recommended Allofmp3. I don’t have the time and energy to keep troubleshooting their problems with music file formats from various legit stores that don’t play on their mp3 players, and Allofmp3 was the only significant source of regular mp3 files that worked; now it’s back to music piracy again…

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Venus Near the Moon

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Venus Near the Moon
Credit & Copyright: Jay Ouellet

Explanation: The two brightest objects in the night sky appeared to go right past each other last week. On the night of May 19, Earth's Moon and the planet Venus were visible in the same part of the sky, and at closest approach were less than one degree apart. The conjunction was captured in the above image taken from near Quebec City, Quebec, Canada. Venus appears on the lower left of the above photo. The spires that appear to emanate from Venus are diffraction spikes caused by the camera itself. The image is so clear that craters on the Moon are resolved. Of course, the real physical distance between the two heavenly bodies was not unusually small -- the apparent conjunction was really just an illusion of perspective. Although Earth's Moon passes Venus once each month, such a close passing visible in the evening sky is more rare.

22-May-2007 (tue)

DNA Lounge: What's New
I just finished reading The Ghost Map, a book about London's 1854 cholera epidemic. It's really fascinating. Anyway, I thought you folks might be interested in this bit on how booze made cities possible. He says:

The search for unpolluted drinking water is as old as civilization itself. As soon as there were mass human settlements, waterborne diseases like dysentery became a crucial population bottleneck. For much of human history, the solution to this chronic public-health issue was not purifying the water supply. The solution was to drink alcohol. In a community lacking pure-water supplies, the closest thing to "pure" fluid was alcohol. Whatever health risks were posed by beer (and later wine) in the early days of agrarian settlements were more than offset by alcohol's antibacterial properties. Dying of cirrhosis of the liver in your forties was better than dying of dysentery in your twenties.

Many genetically minded historians believe that the confluence of urban living and the discovery of alcohol created a massive selection pressure on the genes of all humans who abandoned the hunter-gatherer lifestyle. Alcohol, after all, is a deadly poison and notoriously addictive. To digest large quantities of it, you need to be able to boost production of enzymes called alcohol dehydrogenases, a trait regulated by a set of genes on chromosome four in human DNA. Many early agrarians lacked that trait, and thus were genetically incapable of "holding their liquor". Consequently, many of them died childless at an early age, either from alcohol abuse or from waterborne diseases.

Over generations, the gene pool or the first farmers became increasingly dominated by individuals who could drink beer on a regular basis. Most of the world's population today is made up of descendants of those early beer drinkers, and we have largely inherited their genetic tolerance for alcohol. (The same is true of lactose tolerance, which went from a rare genetic trait to the mainstream among the descendants of the herders, thanks to the domestication of livestock.)

The descendants of hunter-gatherers -- like many Native Americans or Australian Aborigines -- were never forced through this genetic bottleneck, and so today they show disproportionate rates of alcoholism. The chronic drinking problem in Native American populations has been blamed on everything from the weak "Indian constitution" to the humiliating abuses of the U.S. reservation system. But their alcohol intolerance most likely has another explanation: their ancestors didn't live in towns.

Or, as W.C. Fields put it, "Water? Never touch the stuff. Fish fuck in it."

this week's comic

too much coffee man


from Uclick you can get my comics sent to your phone. You get the latest comic and you can get old too much coffee man comics (in color). Right now they're running some old comics that have never been reprinted in any book collection. It's kind of cool to see them again.

The new Yoko Ono album is pretty good. Her new version of Kiss Kiss Kiss sounds really 80's. The Milk and Honey album was really popular. Near as I can figure, more people have heard her having an orgasm than any other single person out there.

Tue I'll have proofs of the Gumby comic to look at. Wild. It'll be available at comic shops for free comic book day.

The Onion is funny:
Anna Nicole Smith Finally Reaches Target Weight

Jump Start
Jump Start

Luann
Luann

Monty
Monty

Doonesbury
Doonesbury

Non-Sequitur
Non-Sequitur

Misc :: RE: What tune is stuck in your head?

The Medusa Fora
Author: Eyeball_Kid
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:05 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 592

O'Blivion said:

I've had a buncha Hank Williams songs in my head for days - My Bucket's Got A Hole In It, Ramblin' Man, Cold Cold Heart, Settin' The Woods On Fire...I love me some Hank.


With Hank you always have a bunch of songs in your head Smile

Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

The Medusa Fora
Author: Niall
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:04 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3066

Bud Byrne said:

MissWalshy said:

I'M NOT SHORT.

Kaka to score first.


You sound like Cartman:

"I'm Not Short, I'm Small Boned"

Agger to score first


id like to be in his pub if that did happen
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Misc :: RE: What tune is stuck in your head?

The Medusa Fora
Author: Eyeball_Kid
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:04 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 592

I Do - The Marvelows

I need to find more of these tunes where fine doo-wop singing meets the rhythmic drive of a good Northern soul song.

Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

The Medusa Fora
Author: firehazard
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:03 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3066

My completely infallible tipster is going for Milan tonight. Smile
And as she's recently shown brilliant (and previously undisclosed) form on the football tipping, get your money on, folks. (Or your pint, or whatever.) Cool
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Live shows :: RE: FORTHCOMING: Pogues at Lokerse Feesten, Belgium, 12th Aug

The Medusa Fora
Author: Eyeball_Kid
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:57 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 47

I just found out ryanair doesn't offer flights to Brussels from Salzburg anymore. Mad

Shared Glory :: RE: Japan's newest..

The Medusa Fora
Author: evilaxeman0
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:48 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 2

i hope their better than the cherry cokes

Misc :: RE: What Song are you listening to?

The Medusa Fora
Author: evilaxeman0
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:46 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 8647

decemberists - engine driver
decemberists - bus mall
larrikin love - happy as annie

Misc :: RE: Going to the theatre

The Medusa Fora
Author: Eyeball_Kid
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:46 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 92

Thank you, Philip, for your comment a few weeks back concerning McDonagh. I've found plenty of material concerning Irish drama etc which I hope will provide me with enough insight to make up for the lack of good literature on McDonagh (that's available here).

I don't any of Osborne's plays except Look Back in Anger but I quickly tired of the nihilistic/existentialist worldview that's shared by all its protagonists. Would that be one of the reasons you think it hasn't aged well, Shaz?

Misc :: RE: What Song are you listening to?

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Author: philipchevron
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:35 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 8647

THE POGUES Aisling
THE POGUES Victoria (Instrumental)
THE POGUES Lust For Vomit

Misc :: RE: What Song are you listening to?

The Medusa Fora
Author: Bud Byrne
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:33 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 8647

Spraypaint Backalley - Damien Dempsey
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Is Linux Out of Touch With the Average User?
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MrSmith writes “Is Linux’s less than impressive market share an indication that the movement is out of touch with the average computer user? ZDNet examines five reasons that could explain why people are still willing to pay for (or pirate) an operating system when free alternatives exist. One of the reasons seems to be that despite what many Linux advocates claim, Windows users aren’t on the whole dissatisfied with their OS: ‘Despite what you read on websites and blogs, newspapers and magazines, people on the whole aren’t all that dissatisfied with Windows. There are millions of users out there who just get on and use their PCs without any real difficulty.’”

IT’s the apps. - by Lumpy (Score: 3, Insightful) Thread
I know of several film students at Ferris State university that use or pirate windows simply because all Video editing and DVD authoring apps under linux suck horribly and pirated versions of MAC software are hard to get.. (they prefer final cut) 
 
Cinerella is unstable and not even 1/2 as usable as Adobe Premiere 4.0.. Apps like Sony Vegas, the current Premier, Canopus, and Avid Dv express kick the absolute living crap out of all the linux video eding apps all rolled together hands down. 
 
DVD authoring also stinks under linux. It’s not even at the par of the dirt cheap Dvd-Lab product out there without being a comand line expert. 
 
Dont get me started with the effects and composting apps that simply do not exist under linux. 
 
How about Engine tuning software? ALDL or ODB-II scan tool software? Electronics design software (Eagle Cad is the ONLY ONE and it’s not that good) how about a Decent CAD package that is even 1/2 as useable as autocad was from 3 years ago? 
 
It’s the apps. People cant rip their DVD’s easily (no anydvd for linux), they cant sync with their ipod without pulling teeth, they cant sync with their phone’s contacts easily, installing non free and not in a RPM repository apps is something that even a seasoned linux user sighs at. 
 
Linux is there, it’s a rock solid OS. it just suffers from the same problem that OS2 and BeOS sufferd from. Nobody is making software that people want for it. 
 
Hell I’d buy a decent video editing app for linux. It does not exist. Main Actor is utter crap and is the only commercial offering. 
 
I’d pay for a native photoshop and Dreamweaver+flash suite for linux, and thousands of others would to. 
 
It’s the apps, plain and simple.

The hassel factor - by simm1701 (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
I’m a linux user and admin. By most peoples standards (ie in the developement department of a bank in which I work I’m a linux/unix expert). 
 
My home laptop (which is my main computer) is dual boot XP/ubuntu. 
 
What do I boot to 95% of the time? 
 
XP. 
 
Simply because its less hassel. 
 
I’ve used wineX, cadega, etc. I’ve built it from cvs, submitted bugs and the occasional patch to it, I’ve contacted game devs and worked with them to get new games to run under it (and had screen shots from my PC posted on developement group walls after they were impressed about it running under linux) 
 
I only have 1 game even installed under windows, morrowind, and I know for a fact I could get it running under linux. 
 
Why don’t I? 
 
Time. 
 
It would take me an hour or two of messing around to get it working under linux. 
 
It would also take me that time or more to get my wireless networking working how I like it under linux (ie knowing the WPA key for several different areas and using whichever is available at the time). 
 
I’m a very busy person and I just feel no need to do it, when its already working without the hassel on my windows partition. I’m not fond of windows, but cygwin covers me for most things I need to do, if its really desparate I’ll boot to linux, but thats a pretty rare occurance. 
 
My home file server runs linux, my firewall runs linux, my personal IMAP server runs linux - I dont have an issue setting these up. 
 
But when someone like me tends to use windows as a desktop it points to the fact that there still needs to be moreease of use put into linux on the desktop. 
 
Users are lazy, until its actually easier to run linux in 99% of cases then its not going to happen. (and I don’t mean better, I’d argue in general linux would be better for almost all things I do, but it isn’t easier)

Naming - by Snap E Tom (Score: 3, Insightful) Thread
I’ve always believed a big problem for desktop, mainstream linux adoption was the naming of popular applications. 
 
Imagine using Linux for the first time. 
 
Noob: What do I use to play CDs and MP3’s? 
Linux Teacher: XMMS 
Noob: What do I use to edit photos? 
Linux Teacher: Gimp 
Noob: What do I use to play movies? 
Linux Teacher: There’s xine and VLC. 
Noob: How about for IMs? 
Linux Teacher: GAIM 
Noob: Email? 
Linux Teacher: Evolution 
 
What the hell’s an XMMS, Gimp, xine, VLC, or Gaim? Those names are awful, and they’re often acronyms. If you ask any average Joe what a Gimp was, they’ll tell you it’s a guy who walks funny. How the hell are you supposed to know that that’s an image editing application? Evolution’s for email and not something to do with biology? 
 
Photoshop. You have an idea what that’s for. Internet Explorer. Same thing - I probably use it to explore the internet. Those are good names. If you’re new to Windows, and you want to do something but can’t remember the name of the program you’re supposed to use, just look around in your Start menu or Programs directory. The names will probably clue you in. 
 
Marketing and branding can definitely help - more and more people are hearing about Firefox, but that gained popularity first in Windows. Access and Excel aren’t that descriptive, but they became household names because of marketing and bundling with Word, which is descriptive. 
 
If people want to make Linux more “user friendly” developers should think a lot about the name they give their programs.

Number 3 nailed it - by niloroth (Score: 3, Insightful) Thread
Quite frankly, i think the 3rd point was one of the biggest. I am rather good with computers, and networking, but getting my acer laptop to work with the wireless b/g card in it under any distro is more than i am willing to do. I can NDISwrapper the drivers, and have a card that will only work in b mode under linux, if i go in and mess about with the conf files. But even then there are seemingly random times where it will just stop working. And going between multiple networks without stopping and restarting the service is simply an exercise in futility, something windows doesn’t have a problem with at all. I realize that without driver support from the manufacturers this will continue to be a problem, but non the less, it is a reason for the lack of market share, because if i don’t fell like going through the hassle, i feel most users wouldn’t even get far enough along to realize that all this work is far more than should be needed. 

i think they are missing the issues - by noldrin (Score: 3, Interesting) Thread
What are the numbers of people who install windows via CD VS people who install Linux via CD?

The main reason is that under Linux your hardware won’t work as well, more internet stuff won’t work, and you can’t play your games like Evercrack and WoW. People who use Linux generally are either really care about freedom, or are computer hobbyists who like messing around with their computer. Average users often just get frustrated and move back to windows if they were curious enough to switch anyways.

I think Linux would be better off targeting the computer hobbyists rather than prematurely going after average users. We are prematurely slapping an easy to use GUI on top of a system that you need to know about in order to maintain, translation: we are giving people enough rope to hang themselves before they know how to use rope safely. Once Linux has most of the computer people using it, the casual user will follow. This is how it worked in the world of DOS vs Mac



Student in Court Over Suspension For YouTube Video
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kozmonaut writes “A model student is in court this week over 40-day suspension for posting a mocking in-class video to YouTube of ‘Mongzilla’, a high school english teacher. The student is arguing he had First Amendment rights to publish the video, though it was filmed without permission in the classroom. ‘Kent School District lawyer Charles Lind says the suspension had nothing to do with online criticism of the teacher. Rather, it was punishment for the disruption created by the students secreting a video camera into Joyce Mong’s class and dancing in a mocking, disrespectful manner while her back was turned. “It’s quite clear that the district is talking about conduct in the classroom and not the videotape,” Lind said. ’”

RTFA, damn it! - by Lurker2288 (Score: 4, Interesting) Thread
If you read the article, it isn’t even clear at this point that the kid who’s being suspended was involved in producing the video, either by acting up in the classroom or by assisting in filming it. It sounds like all he did was post a link to it on his Myspace page, and the school is busting him because they want him to rat out the people who DID make it.

It’s okay… - by Thrace (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
All kids involved in the video taping the teacher are morons. I remember when it was common sense not to do something so blatantly stupid and self-incriminating while in school. What ever happened to being able to sit for 45 minutes without acting like a jackass?

Re:40 days? - by DrivingBear (Score: 5, Funny) Thread
In my day kids got one week suspensions for smoking pot and getting in to fights.

But pot and fights never hurt anybody. He gave her bunny ears. There’s no recovering from that kind of humiliation.



The Video in question - by baboonlogic (Score: 4, Informative) Thread
Mongzilla is still up on Youtube.

The teacher may have something to say. - by iknownuttin (Score: 5, Informative) Thread
The teacher was in frame and the video was published on the internet. Where’s the model’s release? This isn’t a news item so it’s arguably warranted.

Try getting a man on the street photo published sometime, you’ll see.



Apple Sued Over ‘Lacking’ Macbook Display
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qu1j0t3 writes “Business 2.0 reports that two MacBook owners have filed a class action lawsuit charging Apple with deceptive advertising, as well as misrepresentation and unfair competition over the use of the phrase ‘millions of colors’ to describe the capability of the LCD displays in MacBook and MacBook Pro computers. The article likens the complaint to an an angry forum thread, and is more than a little bit skeptical of the plaintiff’s motives. Perhaps it’s their uncanny attention to detail. From the filing: ‘The reality is that notwithstanding Apple’s misrepresentations and suggestions that its MacBook and MacBook Pro display millions of colors, the displays are only capable of displaying the illusion of millions of colors through the use of a software technique referred to as dithering, which causes nearby pixels on the display to use slightly varying shades of colors that trick the human eye into perceiving the desired color even though it is not truly that color.’

Spatial and temporal dithering - by AlpineR (Score: 5, Interesting) Thread

I never heard of this LCD dithering before. A little bit of Googling found a simple explanation of what it is, a simple test to look for it, and a detailed explanation and test.

This seems to be a very common practice on LCD screens, not just a trick used by Apple. I’m still not clear whether most LCDs use spatial or temporal dithering. It seems like temporal dithering would work very well with an LCD. They’re known for their sluggish response times, so sending “80-84-80-84” at 60 Hz should result in a nice smearing into “82-82-82-82” over time.

I didn’t see any dithering artifacts on my MacBook Pro (Core 2 Duo). Either it doesn’t dither (unlikely) or the dithering is better than my eyes can see.

We all know that screens are actually made of red, green, and blue (RGB) dots that combine to make the apparent color of each pixel. An 8-bit screen would have 256 levels of brighness for each of those subpixels, yielding 256 x 256 x 256 = 16.8 million mixed colors. But if you wanted to be really technical you could say that the screen can actually show only 256 + 256 + 256 = 768 colors; the mixed colors are an illusion. Likewise a 6-bit screen can generate only 262 thousand colors in a given pixel at a given instant, but it can simulate many more colors over time or space.

The argument depends on how many pixels the manufacturer claims to have. If they say their screen is 1024 x 768 with 16.8 million colors then we would expect to have 786,000 independently addressable pixels, each of which comprises three RGB subpixels. If in fact it takes four RGB subpixels (1-1/3 of each 6-bit subpixel to get 8 bits) to yield 16.8 million colors then they should really only claim a resolution of 768 x 576. If, however, they do the dithering temporally and the pulsation is unnoticeable then I think continuing to call the resolution 1024 x 768 is fair.

AlpineR



8-bit vs 6-bit LCD displays - by Trevin (Score: 5, Informative) Thread

This got me wondering how many bpp my own Viewsonic Pro series monitor can display. I was surprised to find that it wasn’t listed in the product specifications — neither as bits nor total number of colors.

A little further digging brought me to this article which gave some good insight about the differences. Some highlights:

Since consumers were demanding faster screens, something needed to be done to improve response times. To facilitate this, many manufacturers turned to reducing the number of levels each color pixel render. This reduction in the number of intensity levels allows the response times to drop but has the drawback of reducing the overall number of colors that can be rendered.
High-speed LCD monitors typically reduce the number of bits for each color to 6 instead of the standard 8. … This is far fewer than the true color display such that it would be noticeable to the human eye.
If no color depths is listed, it should be assumed that monitors of 12ms or faster will be 6-bit and the 20ms and slower panels are 8-bit.
This is very subjective to the actual user and what the computer is used for. The amount of color really matters to those that do professional work on graphics. For these people, the amount of color that is displayed on the screen is very important. The average consumer is not going to really need this level of color representation by their monitor. As a result, it probably doesn’t matter. People using their displays for video games or watching video will likely not care about the number of colors rendered by the LCD but by the speed at which it can be displayed. As a result, it is best to determine your needs and base your purchase on those criteria.


Far more interesting: Better under Windows? - by Animaether (Score: 5, Informative) Thread
From the PDF ( http://www.engadget.com/videos/PDF/apple_macbook_l awsuit.pdf ) : 
 
’‘The extent to which a particular make of computer is capable of “dithering” is a function of the sophistication of the programming of the software. For example, in the case of the MacBook and MacBook Pro, because of the uniqueness of these computers to be able to run both Apple’s OS operating system, and the PC’s Microsoft Windows operating system, it is possible to compare the quality of the display between the two operating systems. In the case of the display that the MacBook and the MacBook Pro produces using the Microsoft Windows operating system at all resolution levels is superior to the display that those same computers display using Apple’s OS operating system.’’ 
 
Some nasty grammar in there, but in summary: no such problem when running Windows on the same machine? 
 
If that is true, then it is indeed an Apple software problem. Note that software shouldn’t be in charge of this sort of thing in the first place. LCD displays themselves handle incoming 8bit values on a 6bit displays in one of three ways: 
A. ‘as is’, 91 becomes 92. 
B. ‘dither’, 3 out of 4 pixels are 92, the other one is 88, averaging to 91 
C. ‘frame rate control’, 3 out of 4 refreshes it draws the pixel as 92, the other one is 88, averaging to 91. 
 
B&C are both common, and both have pros/cons. But either way, the software shouldn’t be doing anything there (arguably, a driver might - i.e. if the monitor specifically allows you to specify which method to use, what dithering pattern, etc. by means of driver control).

eyeballs - by CheeseTroll (Score: 5, Funny) Thread
I’d like to sue the manufacturer of my retinas and/or brain, because my retinas are only capable of Trichromatic vision, but my brain keeps tricking me into thinking I’m seeing millions of variations. 
 
And don’t get me started on those so-called “color printer” things. I only see 3 colors of ink/toner going into those.

The point - by Z0mb1eman (Score: 5, Informative) Thread
How about providing the IMPORTANT part from the article in the summary, hmmm? 
 
“At the heart of the case is plaintiff’s claim that rather than delivering 16,777,216 colors with an 8-bit LCD, Apple chose a cheaper route, delivering the illusion of millions of colors using a 6-bit LCD and dithering.” 
 
2^24 = 16,777,216 
2^18 = 262,144 
 
Nothing wrong with 6-bit LCDs, but they shouldn’t be advertised as 8-bit… 
 
*gets ready to be torn apart by rabid mac fans*

Antigua Targets U.S. on Online Gaming
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The tiny Caribbean nation of Antigua and Barbuda seeks compensation from the U.S. over its illegal restrictions on Internet gambling sites based overseas and on Tuesday asked other countries to join in as it targets Washington over its failure to comply with global trade rules.

Antigua, the smallest country to successfully litigate a case in the World Trade Organization's 12-year-history, also threatened to target American trademarks, copyrights and telecommunications companies after the WTO on Tuesday formally adopted a landmark decision reached in March that the United States' restrictions on online gambling were illegal.

Exercise 'reverses' muscle ageing
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A twice-weekly trip to the gym may not just give you stronger muscles - it may give you younger muscles as well.

Research on over-65s has shown that regular resistance training appears to reverse signs of ageing in the muscles.

Analysis of muscle tissue showed the molecular machinery powering muscle cells became as active as that in 20-year olds after exercise.

Bouvetøya
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Bouvetøya can be considered the most remote island on the planet: now that sealing and whaling have ceased in the Southern Ocean,it is only rarely visited by man.

The island is covered in an ice sheet several hundred feet thick, and sheer ice cliffs fall vertically towards black beaches formed of volcanic sand. The sea is close to freezing throughout the year, often covered in ice or stranded icebergs.

As one might imagine, the weather at this location in the 50th latitude is very inhospitable. Fair weather is extremely rare, and the mean temperature is minus 1.5ºC.

NHS urged to reject homoeopathy
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A group of leading scientists are stepping up their campaign to get the NHS to turn its back on homoeopathy.

The experts, led by Professor Gustav Born, of Kings College London, have written to NHS managers urging them not to fund the complementary therapy.

It comes a year after they first wrote because of what they say is a lack of evidence it works. Early data suggests the NHS is turning its back on it.

A follow up to this story from last year.

Beam Me Up: Apple's iTV strategy is iChat on steroids.

I, Cringely
7.37: Beam Me Up:
Apple's iTV strategy is iChat on steroids.

Speaker's Corner :: RE: The God Delusion

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Author: philipchevron
Subject: Re: The God Delusion
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:29 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3

Beisty said:

We have not had a thread on this one yet, which to be honest, I am slightly surprised by.

I’ve just started and am a few chapters in. I am familiar with Richard Dawkins’ work, and pretty much agree with him on most points (if not all). I am also aware however, that books like this can be counter-productive sometimes. I had read reviews elsewhere that had described it being a bit preachy and aggressive.

But everything I have read so far seems well structured, balanced and most critical points are clearly referenced. It gives any critics a clear avenue of counter-attack, almost as if criticism is invited.

Anyone read it? Just curious.


It actually has had some discussion, albeit in a discourse on the relative merits of Prof Dawkins and Mr Chris Hitchens as King Deicide.

http://pogues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2576&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=780

Boots & Unreleased :: RE: Lullaby of the Chocolate City

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Author: Anonymous
Subject: Re: Lullaby of the Chocolate City
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:14 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 11

PhilipChevron said:

I cannot endorse any medium which uses my work without payment, just as a matter of principle.


I believe that this is called "capitalism."

"We will pretend to work as long as the bosses pretend to pay us."
--old workers' motto in the Soviet Union


Having said that, I'll wait for some self-righteous individual to mimick the speech of the peasant in Monty Python.

Misc :: RE: Going to the theatre

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Author: philipchevron
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:14 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 91

I have single tickets for the following performances in Stratford-Upon-Avon which I find I cannot attend. First to ask for them gets them. I do not require any payment, I'd just rather they were not wasted. They are all top price tickets.

Tuesday June 5 7.30 Macbeth Swan Theatre
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Wednesday June 6 1 pm King Lear Courtyard Theatre
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Wednesday June 6 7 pm The Seagull Courtyard Theatre
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Bud Byrne
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:11 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3064

MissWalshy said:

I'M NOT SHORT.

Kaka to score first.


You sound like Cartman:

"I'm Not Short, I'm Small Boned"

Agger to score first
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Misc :: RE: What Song are you listening to?

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Author: Grievous Angel
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:10 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 8644

James McMurtry - Childish Things

Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: MissWalshy
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:02 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3064

I'M NOT SHORT.

Kaka to score first.
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Bud Byrne
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:50 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3064

MissWalshy said:

beer beer beer Smile

If you look carefully at my shiny new avatar you can see a bottle of beer in it..

haha it really does resemble me.


With your little short legs an all............ Shorty:D
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Misc :: RE: What Song are you listening to?

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Author: Bud Byrne
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:48 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 8644

Party On - Damo
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: MissWalshy
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:46 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3064

beer beer beer Smile

If you look carefully at my shiny new avatar you can see a bottle of beer in it..

haha it really does resemble me.

Yeah Im really looking forward to the match. Theres a load of us going out.. Smile
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: firehazard
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:45 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3064

MissWalshy said:

My dads all excited.. asked me mam to iron his shirt last night. I found that hilarious.. still don't quite know why.. Shocked Laughing


Cause he thinks he might lose it when Milan win? Wink
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Bud Byrne
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:43 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3064

Nice one.

Well if it's a exciting as the last time they played you should just about manage it Wink
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: MissWalshy
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:33 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3064

This will be my 6th night going out in the trot.. I wonder if I'll be able to keep my eyes open for the game.

Smile
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: The God Delusion

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Author: Christine
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:33 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3

And btw, if you also like theatre, the King's Head are showing a play about the Enlightenment atheist Meslier who famously said: “I would like the last of the kings to be strangled by the guts of the last priest”.

http://www.offwestend.com/index.php/plays/view/680

Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Bud Byrne
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:22 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3057

Cause he wants to look his best down the Pub when the win silly. Very Happy
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: MissWalshy
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:18 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3057

My dads all excited.. asked me mam to iron his shirt last night. I found that hilarious.. still don't quite know why.. Shocked Laughing
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Misc :: RE: What tune is stuck in your head?

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Author: O'Blivion
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:17 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 590

I've had a buncha Hank Williams songs in my head for days - My Bucket's Got A Hole In It, Ramblin' Man, Cold Cold Heart, Settin' The Woods On Fire...I love me some Hank.
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: The God Delusion

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Author: Christine
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:11 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 1

Yes, brilliant book, but even more: a necessary book. Someone needs to stand up and make a big splash - which he did, it sold well and had a tv programme to go with it - even if he can be a bit over the top. With Blair's legacy, among others, being an encroachment of religion on education, it is increasingly urgent for secularists to fight back, and Dawkins is great at that.

He also made me laugh out loud, eg. when he described god/s. The Selfish Gene is written in an exceedingly clear manner, explaining complicated scientific issues in a way that I can pretend to have understood them. But this one is funny to boot.

Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Bud Byrne
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:42 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3057

Johan From Sweden said:

Mark_Wafc said:

Forza Milano!


Couldn´t agree more Very Happy

I realy belive that Milan will win this tonight.


While Milan might win I hope they don't.

Come on the Pool.
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Congress Debating “No-Work†Database
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Posted by kdawson (21% noise) View
grag writes “Cnet is reporting that the US Congress, in their quest for immigration reform, seeks to force employers to utilize a database to determine a person’s eligibility for employment. The Department of Homeland Security would operate the database and would be given access to IRS records for this purpose. The article mentions similarities between this proposal and the no-fly list — and the expectation of similar difficulties the proposed database could pose to valid people seeking employment.”

Next up… - by woolio (Score: 2) Thread
DHS will attempt to create national a database of irrational numbers… 
 
After all, computer security could be improved if we keep these pesky numbers out of our calculations. By Federal Law, all numerical calculations will require verifification with the National Irrational Number Database (NIHD) to ensure these numbers do not penetrate our borders. 
 

Well that’s neat… - by LordPhantom (Score: 2) Thread
You know, this may be being implemented with the best of intentions (stopping illegal workers, etc), but do we really want to give the government an easy way to “flip a switch” (or bit) and make it impossible for any one person to earn a living?  
 
This isn’t just a “don’t fly” list, and I suspect that in its initial incarnation it wouldn’t have the same … due process that the local police arresting someone would.  
 
If not this government what about the one that is elected five years from now? Nine? What about the (admittedly hypothetical) government that is elected in 2020 that wants to prevent convicted felons from holding certain classes of jobs (more so than stigma already does?) Political dissidents?

Across the border… - by danbert8 (Score: 2, Insightful) Thread
This won’t affect illegal immigrants working. Employers know they aren’t elligible to work, they choose to employ them not just because they are cheaper labor, but because they do better work than the unionized workers here in the states.

Re:Across the border… - by b0s0z0ku (Score: 2) Thread
This won’t affect illegal immigrants working. Employers know they aren’t elligible to work, they choose to employ them not just because they are cheaper labor, but because they do better work than the unionized workers here in the states.

Mod parent up. Does anyone with half a clue think that the workers hanging around a street corner at 6am looking for construction bosses to pick them up are LEGAL? Who’s kidding whom here?! They’re not checking documents now, and that’s a legal requirement already. They think that the existence of a database will somehow make people care any more?

-b.



Re:Across the border… - by Ihlosi (Score: 2) Thread
They think that the existence of a database will somehow make people care any more?

It will, once they’ve extraordinarily renditioned the first couple of offenders, or shipped them to Gitmo, or just disappeared them.



Shane MacGowan :: RE: Shane singing Spancil Hill w/ Christy Moore

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Author: Smerker
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:22 pm (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 29

Zuzana said:

Af far as I know, Shane only sings Spancil Hill with Cruachan on their Folk Lore album (which was recorded only after he performed the duet with Christy). Christy has a nice solo version od his Prosperous album. No idea what Christy meant by his remark. Smile



I remember hearing somewhere from Christy (it may have been his autobiography, or The Great Hunger) that Shane was familiar with Moore's version he recorded many years before and when the pair of them were going through Spancil Hill just before the Late Late Show, Shane didn't like the fact that Christy had changed the performance of the song slightly over twenty five years or whatever it is. Christy liked the fact that Shane loved the version so much. It's that one that they played on the show, and I think it's that he's talking about.

The performance would be much improved if someone didn't shout "Yo!...yoyoyo yo yo!! at the end of it. Spoils the mood a little.
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Speaker's Corner :: The God Delusion

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Author: Beisty
Subject: The God Delusion
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:28 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 0

We have not had a thread on this one yet, which to be honest, I am slightly surprised by.

I’ve just started and am a few chapters in. I am familiar with Richard Dawkins’ work, and pretty much agree with him on most points (if not all). I am also aware however, that books like this can be counter-productive sometimes. I had read reviews elsewhere that had described it being a bit preachy and aggressive.

But everything I have read so far seems well structured, balanced and most critical points are clearly referenced. It gives any critics a clear avenue of counter-attack, almost as if criticism is invited.

Anyone read it? Just curious.
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Shane MacGowan :: RE: Shane singing Spancil Hill w/ Christy Moore

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Author: MissWalshy
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:23 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 28

eeeeejit.

Perhaps he means the version Shane just sang to him before going on stage.

Smile
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Shane MacGowan :: RE: Shane singing Spancil Hill w/ Christy Moore

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Author: Zuzana
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:22 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 28

Af far as I know, Shane only sings Spancil Hill with Cruachan on their Folk Lore album (which was recorded only after he performed the duet with Christy). Christy has a nice solo version od his Prosperous album. No idea what Christy meant by his remark. Smile
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Shane MacGowan :: RE: Shane singing Spancil Hill w/ Christy Moore

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Author: MissWalshy
Subject: Spancill Hill
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:42 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 28

I've been listening to the Shane and Christy duo from The Late Late show a fair bit this morning... Every time the song starts I hear Christy say "I'm going to sing his version and he's going to do mine"... Shane's version? Has he done this by himself and if so where can I get a listen?

Thanks -

Walshy
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Johan From Sweden
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:11 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3054

Mark_Wafc said:

Forza Milano!


Couldn´t agree more Very Happy

I realy belive that Milan will win this tonight.
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FBI Target Puts His Life Online
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After the FBI mistakenly targeted him as a terror suspect five years ago, art professor Hasan Elahi began recording his entire life online for the perusal of government agents or anyone else who wants to look in. “I’ve discovered that the best way to protect your privacy is to give it away,” he says, grinning. “It’s economics. I flood the market.”

Sorry, no. - by imsabbel (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
That whole “give away so much that they cannot use all the Data” might have worked back when all was done by humans. 
 
Nowdays, you just buy some more computers to do the datamining and cross-referencing. Dont worry, there are thousands of PHDs working at google to make 1984 a reality. 
 
(Dont believe me? Take a look what googles CEO says here : http://www.ft.com/cms/s/c3e49548-088e-11dc-b11e-00 0b5df10621.html . In short, a quote: “The goal is to enable Google users to be able to ask the question such as ‘What shall I do tomorrow?’ and ‘What job shall I take?’”)

Shouldn’t we all stop fighting? - by Nymz (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
“But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.” Part 3, Chapter 6

Nice, clever, but still not right - by mcvos (Score: 5, Interesting) Thread
It’s great that he’s created the perfect alibi, and keeping himself out of accidental incarceration on Gitmo, but the real message here is that government institutions are way too sloppy, and that if you do not give up your privacy like this, you may be risking all sorts of harassment and worse. Innocent people do get locked up because of mistakes, malice, or a combination of both.

New religion - by Romwell (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
Privacy nowadyas is like a religion. Some people believe in it, some don’t; some fight to protect it. But it is still as intangible and unattainable as deities from other religions.

Come on… - by niceone (Score: 5, Informative) Thread
You could at least try to slashdot the guy’s site, it is^H^Hwas kind of cool.

Shared Glory :: Orthodox Celts

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Author: Zuzana
Subject: Orthodox Celts
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:21 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 0

They have already been mentioned here a few times - a great band from Sebia playing energetic and vigorous Irish music. They also did a cover of IISFFGWG, or at least performed it live. Orthodox or unorthodox, they sound really good! Smile Has anybody heard / seen them?

Their website:
http://www.orthodoxcelts.co.yu

A great fun video for Star Of the County Down:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HEt2XdN_TbQ

One mp3, aptly titled Drinking Song:
http://www.nostalgija.com/muzika/8184.php
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Mark_Wafc
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:59 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3053

Forza Milano!

Speaker's Corner :: RE: A Thread For Things That Dont deserve Threads!

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Author: MissWalshy
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:59 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 2293

Happy 400th. Must feel real special. Neutral

I'm on hold...

"Your call is important to us"

Yeah right.
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Beer Survey

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Author: Mark_Wafc
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:57 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 47

http://www.douglasvalleypigs.co.uk/royaloak/events.asp

My local have got their own festival on at the weekend Cool

Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Niall
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:57 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3053

Mark_Wafc said:

Niall said:

Arrrrgh said:

But it's a shame to have a football thread and not discuss the single biggest match of the football season, the European final!


thats not necessarily the biggest game of the season, it depends really who you support. do you think that west brom and derby think its the biggest game of the season? As for me, im going out in manchester tonight to cheer on the scousers, hope im still alive in the morning to amke a report


ive just dropped my boss off at John Lennon airport, thousands of the feckers everywhere. please god let Milan win this tonight, 5 times is more than enough!!


nah, 6 times would be good
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Misc :: RE: What Song are you listening to?

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Author: firehazard
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:53 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 8642

Michaelo said:

Deanna- Nick Cave


Great song.

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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Beer Survey

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Author: firehazard
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:52 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 47

Mark_Wafc said:

firehazard said:

Spoilt for choice this week: http://www.cambridgebeerfestival.com/summer/

Woohoo! Cool


Sounds a good one that, i went to the Great British Beer Fest in 2005 - enjoyed it but was a bit to busy!!!!


Aye, this is usually a good'un. It's been going on for years... this is the 34th. It's sort of open air (well, in marquees, mostly), so although it's busy it never feels too crowded. Thankfully it looks as if they've got great weather for it this year. Choosing which ales to try is the main problem. Wink Cool
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Beer Survey

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Author: Mark_Wafc
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:41 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 47

firehazard said:

Spoilt for choice this week: http://www.cambridgebeerfestival.com/summer/

Woohoo! Cool


Sounds a good one that, i went to the Great British Beer Fest in 2005 - enjoyed it but was a bit to busy!!!!

Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Mark_Wafc
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:39 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3053

Niall said:

Arrrrgh said:

But it's a shame to have a football thread and not discuss the single biggest match of the football season, the European final!


thats not necessarily the biggest game of the season, it depends really who you support. do you think that west brom and derby think its the biggest game of the season? As for me, im going out in manchester tonight to cheer on the scousers, hope im still alive in the morning to amke a report


ive just dropped my boss off at John Lennon airport, thousands of the feckers everywhere. please god let Milan win this tonight, 5 times is more than enough!!

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llamapalooza writes “Google announced that it will ban essay writing firms from advertising on their site. (The prevalence of cheating on campuses has been discussed here before.) While universities have welcomed the move, the affected firms are claiming it will ‘punish legitimate businesses.’ Google has specifically banned ‘academic paper-writing services and the sale of pre-written essays, theses, and dissertations,’ which now join other items on the banned list such as tobacco, drugs, weapons, and prostitution.”

‘Bout Time - by Vornzog (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
As someone who is less than 48 hours away from a completed thesis Ph.D. thesis and a little over a week away from my defense, there is only one thing I have to say about this. 
 
It’s about damn time. 
 
I hate to see that these services even exist. 
 
I understand the cheating will always go on, at all levels of academics. The practice isn’t against any laws, but it is nice to see Google not condoning something legal but flat out wrong.

dickens was paid by the word - by User 956 (Score: 5, Funny) Thread
which now join other items on the banned list such as tobacco, drugs, weapons, and prostitution.  
 
Essay writing is just a simpler form of prostitution. You know the old saying “Prose before Hos”.

Bender Says. . . - by Apple Acolyte (Score: 3, Funny) Thread
“I’ll create my own search engine, with blackjack and hookers” and essay writers.

Distinction - by gowen (Score: 3, Insightful) Thread

‘punish legitimate businesses.’
Legitimate is not the same as legal. Besides, google can take advertising (or not) from whoever they like.

Banned list? - by Whiney Mac Fanboy (Score: 4, Insightful) Thread
which now join other items on the banned list such as tobacco, drugs, weapons, and prostitution.” 
 
Depends on the drug 
 
Anyway, who really cares who Google accepts for advertising - its what they index that really matters.

Poverty cycle of a single father
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As children's charity Barnardo's warns that the government will fail to halve child poverty by 2010, one father explains how he gets by.

Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Niall
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:22 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3050

Johan From Sweden said:

Niall said:

Arrrrgh said:

But it's a shame to have a football thread and not discuss the single biggest match of the football season, the European final!


thats not necessarily the biggest game of the season, it depends really who you support. do you think that west brom and derby think its the biggest game of the season? As for me, im going out in manchester tonight to cheer on the scousers, hope im still alive in the morning to amke a report


Take care my friend Cool

And Remember Theres only one team, and thats the Gunners Wink Very Happy


i should be okay, im taking my girlfriend with me, she does kickboxing and can handle any trouble while i sink a few magners
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Live shows :: RE: FORTHCOMING: Pogues at Lokerse Feesten, Belgium, 12th Aug

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Author: Anonymous
Subject: Belgium
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:15 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 46

Well let's ask your local venue to book the Pogues for the rest of the summer now they're crossing the Channel!

Speaker's Corner :: RE: Beer Survey

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Author: Johan From Sweden
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:01 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 44

firehazard said:

Johan From Sweden said:

As i said before "theres NO shortcuts to win the World Campinoship Bud" Wink Very Happy


True indeed. "Shortcuts" is not a word we want to hear in this beard context. Shocked Wink


Laughing Laughing

Never saw the ironi in that word Very Happy Wink
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Live shows :: RE: FORTHCOMING: Pogues at Way Out West, Sweden, 10th Aug

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Author: Johan From Sweden
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:59 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 214

Just some usless knowing:

Moneybrother who plays at W O W have made a Swedish version of Kirsy MacColl´s "They don´t know" and in Swidish it´s "Dom vet ingenting om oss" and it´s played quiet frekvently on Swedish radio. maybe someone (Mats) Smile can put up a link to the song

Cheers
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Beer Survey

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Author: firehazard
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:55 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 44

Johan From Sweden said:

As i said before "theres NO shortcuts to win the World Campinoship Bud" Wink Very Happy


True indeed. "Shortcuts" is not a word we want to hear in this beard context. Shocked Wink
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Johan From Sweden
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:42 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3050

Niall said:

Arrrrgh said:

But it's a shame to have a football thread and not discuss the single biggest match of the football season, the European final!


thats not necessarily the biggest game of the season, it depends really who you support. do you think that west brom and derby think its the biggest game of the season? As for me, im going out in manchester tonight to cheer on the scousers, hope im still alive in the morning to amke a report


Take care my friend Cool

And Remember Theres only one team, and thats the Gunners Wink Very Happy
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Beer Survey

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Author: Johan From Sweden
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:40 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 44

firehazard said:

MissWalshy said:

Beer festivals are rank Shocked


Depends whether or not you like trying out different beers, I guess. As beer fests go, this one ain't too bad, and it does have some great beers. Though, like most of them, it does tend to have a proportion of very serious beery beardies*... Wink And it's astonishing how many of them turn out to be Tories too. Beery beardy Tories... Hmm, maybe you're right, Walshy. Laughing

*Nothing against beards, of course, Johan, Bud etc. As you know, I'm a fan of a good beard. Wink


No offence taken Wink

BTW where the hell is Bud, he´s late for practice Evil or Very Mad As i said before "theres NO shortcuts to win the World Campinoship Bud" Wink Very Happy
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Misc :: RE: What tune is stuck in your head?

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Author: Niall
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:37 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 589

the song played at the end of ladder49
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Misc :: RE: What Movie Are You Watching Or Watched Today?

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Author: Niall
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:37 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 2231

ladder 49
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: The saga of IrishRover & The Crew, a Shane tribute band

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Author: Niall
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:36 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 609

Rover, Im not having a dig, but it seems that if you really wanted to get to Ireland as much as you claim, there are ways that you could do it
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Niall
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:33 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3050

Arrrrgh said:

But it's a shame to have a football thread and not discuss the single biggest match of the football season, the European final!


thats not necessarily the biggest game of the season, it depends really who you support. do you think that west brom and derby think its the biggest game of the season? As for me, im going out in manchester tonight to cheer on the scousers, hope im still alive in the morning to amke a report
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: Niall
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:31 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3050

firehazard said:

Michaelo said:

Beisty said:

Bryan Robson has been unveiled as the new Sheffield utd manager.

That's them fucked then.

I find it unbelievable that anyone could give the guy a manager's job wuth his track record.


Robson has "experience of the Championship". He got Middlesbrough out of it, twice. He also got both Boro and West Brom into it. I think he got Bradford out of it, too... Laughing


for a championship team he's al;right
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: UFC

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Author: Niall
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:30 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3

Beisty said:

.....or does he mean United FC?


Ultimate Fighting Championship, its a mixed martial arts sport
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Beer Survey

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Author: firehazard
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:30 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 44

MissWalshy said:

Beer festivals are rank Shocked


Depends whether or not you like trying out different beers, I guess. As beer fests go, this one ain't too bad, and it does have some great beers. Though, like most of them, it does tend to have a proportion of very serious beery beardies*... Wink And it's astonishing how many of them turn out to be Tories too. Beery beardy Tories... Hmm, maybe you're right, Walshy. Laughing

*Nothing against beards, of course, Johan, Bud etc. As you know, I'm a fan of a good beard. Wink
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Beer Survey

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Author: MissWalshy
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:20 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 40

Beer festivals are rank Shocked
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Beer Survey

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Author: firehazard
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:09 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 40

Spoilt for choice this week: http://www.cambridgebeerfestival.com/summer/

Woohoo! Cool
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Speaker's Corner :: RE: Football forever

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Author: firehazard
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:06 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 3046

Michaelo said:

Beisty said:

Bryan Robson has been unveiled as the new Sheffield utd manager.

That's them fucked then.

I find it unbelievable that anyone could give the guy a manager's job wuth his track record.


Robson has "experience of the Championship". He got Middlesbrough out of it, twice. He also got both Boro and West Brom into it. I think he got Bradford out of it, too... Laughing
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In The Media :: Philip Chevron on Sirius

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Author: MacRua
Subject: Philip Chevron on Sirius
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:36 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 0

Sirius Satellite Radio:

Phil Chevron of the Pogues Visits Celtic Crush
Sat 5/26 12:00 pm ET
Pogues' member Phil Chevron chats with Celtic Crush host Larry Kirwan about the history of the Pogues this Memorial Day weekend.
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Robot Submarine Maps World’s Deepest Sinkhole
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holy_calamity writes “The world’s deepest water-filled sinkhole has finally been mapped — by a robotic submarine whose descendants may one day swim on one of Jupiter’s moons. The last attempt to find the bottom resulted in the SCUBA diving depth record and the death of a diving legend. The sub’s sonar found that the divers had descended to only about 10m from the floor. The sub’s mapping also indicated that the sinkhole, which is over 300m deep, could connect to even deeper caves.”

Deep Diving Risks - by wildsurf (Score: 5, Informative) Thread
This reminds me of the amazing (and sobering) story of Dave Shaw, who perished in a deep freshwater cavern trying to recover the body of a fellow diver. Quite a read, if you have 20 minutes.

Mel’s Hole? - by WED Fan (Score: 5, Funny) Thread

Mel’s Hole



Those bastards - by SuperKendall (Score: 4, Funny) Thread
I can understand the “man” taking Mel’s hole away from him, possibly to store with the Ark in that large warehouse. 
 
But shutting down his wombat-rescue operation? That’s just plain mean. 

Re:Mel’s Hole? - by ricree (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
I know that wikipedia isn’t exactly the world’s most reliable source, but why in the heck hasn’t that article been deleted yet.

Re:Mel’s Hole? - by Whiney Mac Fanboy (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
I know that wikipedia isn’t exactly the world’s most reliable source, but why in the heck hasn’t that article been deleted yet. 
 
For the same reason that articles on Leprechauns or the Piltdown Man aren’t deleted. So someone can go & read about them, find out they’re not real things, and the read the story of how the hoax/myth/whatever was perpetutated.

Central Casting
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Welcome to Central Casting Online, your connection to the leading background actors casting company in the United States! Central Casting has been providing the entertainment industry with background talent for more than 80 years, offering a full range of background services for every type of production from offices in Los Angeles and New York. So whether you're a producer looking for background talent, or a background actor looking for work, the crew at Central Casting has the experience and expertise to help meet all of your background needs.

don't mess up your life
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10 simple ways to save yourself from messing up your life

Someeecards.com - When You Care Enough to Hit Send
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True, the e-card is not quite the popular form of expression that it use to be. However, when you can't find the words to express your feelings and a traditional greeting card won't do, these e-cards will do the trick.

Congratulate that new mom by telling her "You're going to make a great MILF." Apologize for pissing in the bed. Or just tell that special someone that you're thinking of them...while you masturbate.

Not safe for work.

Captive shark had 'virgin birth'
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Female hammerhead sharks can reproduce without having sex, scientists confirm.

The evidence comes from a shark at Henry Doorly Zoo in Nebraska which gave birth to a pup in 2001 despite having had no contact with a male.

Genetic tests by a team from Belfast, Nebraska and Florida prove conclusively the young animal possessed no paternal DNA, Biology Letters journal reports.

Others :: RE: Redemption Song: The Ballad of Joe Strummer

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Author: MacRua
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:27 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 2

My pleasure, Clash Cadillac!
To clarify things a bit: PopMatters offers exclusive excerpts from the new Chris Salewicz biography of Joe Strummer - Redemption Song: The Ballad of Joe Strummer (published this week in the U.S.)

And here is
Part 2: Under Heavy Manners (1976-1977)
PopMatters
21 May 2007
By Chris Salewicz

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Speaker's Corner :: RE: The saga of IrishRover & The Crew, a Shane tribute band

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Author: MacRua
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:18 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 608

Rein in! Let him wangle passport first Laughing
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Shane MacGowan :: RE: Che MacGowan

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Author: MacRua
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:08 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 14

To make a long family story short: Yes, they are cousins!

More pics here
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Shane MacGowan :: RE: Che MacGowan

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Author: Anonymous
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:54 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 14

Patrick Lynch, founder of the Argentine branch of the Lynches, was born in Ireland in 1715. He left for Bilbao, Spain, and traveled from there to Argentina. Francisco Lynch (Che's great-grandfather) was born in 1817, and Ana Lynch (his grandmother) in 1861. Her son Ernesto Guevara Lynch (Che's father) was born in 1900, married Celia de la Serna and had five children. Ernesto was born in 1927.

Disney's Enchanted Movie Trailer
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Here is the story pitch:

In an animated fairy tale world, a young girl meets and falls in love with the handsome prince of her dreams. News of this romance upsets the prince's mother, the evil queen, who uses her black magic to send the girl hurtling out of the animated world into the one place in the universe where there is no true love: modern day Manhattan. The now-real girl has to survive in New York City and find her way home again to her true love. Amy Adams, Patrick Dempsey, James Marsden and Susan Sarandon star.

Looks pretty good.

Blizzard makes WoW wish virtual reality
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Make-A-Wish and a willing company help a grade schooler become the first outsider to create a new character in World of Warcraft.

Islam Beheaded
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The truth about Muhammad has been one of the world's best-kept secrets. For centuries, it has been virtually impossible to raise objections about the character of Muhammad in Muslim countries, for anyone who raised such objections would (following the example set by Muhammad himself) immediately be killed. Outside the Muslim world, there has been little interest in Islam. But things have changed.

Now many people are interested in Islam, and Muslims aren't able to silence everyone. Moreover, with the advent of the Internet, it is now impossible to keep Muhammad's life a secret. The facts about the founder of Islam are spreading very rapidly, and Muslims are frantically scurrying to defend their faith.

Sounds of the World's Animals: Duck
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Duck Sounds:

Afrikaans: kwak-kwak
Albanian: mak mak
Arabic (Algeria): couak couak
Bengali: gack-gack
Catalan: cuac, cuac
Chinese (Mandarin): gua gua
Croatian: kva-kva
Danish: rap
Dutch: kwak kwak

+ 24 more!

2007 Atlantic hurricane season
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The 2007 Atlantic hurricane season will be more active than normal due to warmer ocean waters, with as many as ten hurricanes, and three to five of them could be major,

Small Webcasters Offered a Rate Break, Reject It
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Pontifex minimus writes “Music royalty collection group SoundExchange has offered an olive branch to small webcasters. They are willing to delay the exorbitant new rates set by the Copyright Royalty Board until 2010 for small webcasters in hopes that they can keep Congress from passing the Internet Radio Equality Act. Larger outfits, like Live365 and Pandora would not be affected and would have to pay the new rates. ’“Although the rates revised by the CRB are fair and based on the value of music in the marketplace, there’s a sense in the music community and in Congress that small webcasters need more time to develop their businesses,” said John Simson, executive director of SoundExchange.’ SaveNetRadio rejected SoundExchange’s offer, saying that it ‘throws large webcasters under the bus.’”

someone explain something to me… - by pjr.cc (Score: 3, Interesting) Thread
How does SoundExchange force people to pay royalties? 
 
There was an article some time ago that ALL internet radio stations, regardless of content, had to pay SE on a per-song basis. I really don’t understand how they have the power or the right to do something like that? 
 
For example if I setup a radio station that played only freely-available, royalty-less music. How does SE get away with charging me money to play said music? Is the RIAA that powerful that they can manage to dictate legislation that way? have i missed something obvious? 
 
What I would be curious to know is, if I wrote a computer program that generated random music (lets ignore the technical feasibility of that and assume its possible) and make a radio station that played that (and only that) could SE force me to pay them royalties? If that is the case, how is that even in the most bizarre parallel universe either fair or just? 
 
Perhaps even a simpler argument was if i were an artist and ran an internet radio station solely playing my own music, can SE force me to pay them royalties? It just seems really stupid to me… 
 

A rhetorical question - by ShooterNeo (Score: 3, Interesting) Thread
So, if band X is played on an internet radio station, will the royalties from that performance actually GO to that band? Or vanish into the black hole of “soundexchange”, with a pittance going to the actual creator of the song?

can internet radio play free music? - by razpones (Score: 3, Interesting) Thread
I mean there is music that is independent from corporations, is there a restriction to this music, like a tax or something that anyone has to pay to transmit either on the air or on line?, also what about music made in other countries that is not bought by American corporations?, this should be the way to do radio, just skip the music that is owned by the conglomerates and go to the source, the artists. Most bands are lame anyway, and even thought i do like some dj’s and some hiphop i would give it up. I had hoped to put my own internet radio station but since i started hearing all this issues it made me wait and see what comes out of it, then i thought about air waves radio (ala pirate), but that is pretty hairy, so i think the way to go is find good free music and use that, with the consent of the artists i imagine.

Translation - by rlp (Score: 5, Funny) Thread
“Nice Internet radio station ya got here. Maybe we’ll take a smaller cut from youse … to start with. Right, Rocko?”

they know - by wizardforce (Score: 5, Insightful) Thread
they know it is really bad for internet radio and this is nothing more than a smoke screen- to convince some people that they are actually trying to be fair which is absolute nonsense. if they wanted to be fair they wouldnt have done this to internet radio or started this garbage against “radio” radio either. now lets hope that they actually destroy themselves in the attempt.

ROAD PENN - Newest Episode
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ID in the Can Penn
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Misc :: RE: What Album Have You Just Bought?

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Author: Clash Cadillac
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:52 am (GMT 0)
Topic Replies: 732

Grievous Angel said:

Clash Cadillac said:


Lafayette Marquis - CC Adcock



Very cool record. I'm still partial to his self-titled one from years back, but that's a good one, too. I just wish CC would record a little more. Two solo albums and a supergroup album in 10 years isn't near enough.

After seeing her in concert, I bought Adrienne Young's "Room to Grow." She's a bluegrass/country singer who's apparently a big fan of the Old Crow Medicine Show. After a listen, it's pretty good. It's more electric than her other two albums, but I like her songwriting.


I had not heard of CC Adcock until I was in Athens, GA for the James McMurtry show May 10th at the Melting Point. I had a few beers with James and asked him what he has been listening to and he said the Lafayette Marquis release "really grabbed him" so I bought it. I have listened to it twice and plan to buy some more.

If you don't know McMurtry check him out. Here is the link for his MySpace page where you can hear 4 of his songs:

http://www.myspace.com/jamesmcmurtry

He is one of the few artists beside the Pogues that I will fly to go see right now.

I will check out Adrienne Young. Thanks

80 days or bust
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One man sets off to re-discover the world the old-fashioned way, traveling no faster than 100 mph and taking the time to see, eat, drink, and blog about his experiences.